Lincoln Discussion Symposium

Very good, Gene! Yes, the man is Carl Sandburg. But the lady having a drink with him on the couch was not Dorothy Kunhardt. The correct lady was not known as an author.

Marilyn Monroe?

Very good, Steve! Yes, indeed it's Marilyn Monroe.

Lots of Marilyn Monroe/Carl Sandburg photos can be seen here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=marilyn+...59&bih=448

Great pics, Roger!

Thank you.

Bob

To all those interested in the study of Lincoln:

Be prepared for a wonderful adventure for his story is such.
Learn the basics: his birth, growing-up years, lawyer days, the presidency.
Read multiple sources and don’t necessarily trust any one source.
Be keen to the time and place in history that the source material was written. History is not static. New things are learned. Authors have their particular slants. Be ever mindful.
Be ready for frustration. Their are contradictions, errors, and dead-ends in the study of Lincoln.
Hold what you think you know about Lincoln as tentative.
Learn to love him. Discover who he was. Cut through the dross and get to know him.
Be humble. You will have your opinion but the opinions of others are valid and need to be respected.
Consider yourself a detective. You have your flashlight seeking out the story.
You will eventually gain some confidence in the knowledge you’ve gained.
In the end, if you have done the job well, you will consider Lincoln a friend. He will be part of your family. He will be part of you.
In the study of Lincoln, beware. It will become a passion.
People will ask you why; why Lincoln?
Your answer will be unique to you.
There are those who love him, or hate him, or care less about him.
You must be about to deal with these truths.
In the study of Lincoln there is no end.
If you are new to the adventure I wish you well- and welcome you aboard. We are your fellow travelers. For those of us that have been on the Lincoln road for awhile- I offer you continued encouragement. And I thank you all for your encouragement to me.
Onward we go in the study of Lincoln...

Bill, you have not posted for awhile - what a wonderful and thoughtful way to return. Kudos!!

Very thoughtful.
I have found the study of Lincoln through this forum has brought me many new friends.

(12-16-2017 04:19 PM)RJNorton Wrote: [ -> ]Bill, you have not posted for awhile - what a wonderful and thoughtful way to return. Kudos!!

Thank you Roger!
Although I am still unpacking in my new residence I am anxious to get back into the swing of things.

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(12-16-2017 04:33 PM)Gene C Wrote: [ -> ]Very thoughtful.
I have found the study of Lincoln through this forum has brought me many new friends.

Speaking as one of those friends I heartily agree!

Wonderful! Thanks.

How is St. Giles church in Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire UK connected to Lincoln?

Does it have anything to do with Thomas Gray?

yes, Roger

In 1860 Lincoln told John Locke Scripps, "Why, it is a great piece of folly to attempt to make any­thing out of my early life. It can all be con­densed into a single sentence, and that sentence you will find in Gray's 'Elegy'—‘The short and simple annals of the poor.' That's my life and that's all you or anyone else can make of it."

Thomas Gray wrote Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard while he was in the churchyard of St. Giles Church.

Well done, Roger. Its quite a long poem but very reminiscent of Englishness. Many phrases have been borrowed from it. Paths of glory. Far from the madding crowd.

Of course its far more than just 'Englishness'. Its about how 'ordinary' people hold within them the capability to achieve greatness. And 'great ' people are destined to the same end as the rest of us.

Here is the poem, Elegy Written in A Country Churchyard. by Thomas Gray

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/4...churchyard