Lincoln Discussion Symposium

Joe,

I am originally from a small town in southeastern Illinois called Albion, founded by Morris Birkbeck and Richard Flower. Birkbeck is often credited with keeping slavery out of Illinois. There, we put ketchup on our hot dogs, fries, and I've even known some who put it on potato chips.

Sandburg might have written a poem as well:

Hog Butcher for the World,
Tool Maker, Stacker of Wheat,
Player with Railroads and the Nation's Freight Handler;
Stormy, husky, brawling,
City of the Big Shoulders:
Purveyor of the all-beef wiener
on which no bottle of sin should ever squirt.

Best
Rob

(08-27-2012 01:30 PM)Rob Wick Wrote: [ -> ]Joe,

I am originally from a small town in southeastern Illinois called Albion, founded by Morris Birkbeck and Richard Flower. Birkbeck is often credited with keeping slavery out of Illinois. There, we put ketchup on our hot dogs, fries, and I've even known some who put it on potato chips.

Sandburg might have written a poem as well:

Hog Butcher for the World,
Tool Maker, Stacker of Wheat,
Player with Railroads and the Nation's Freight Handler;
Stormy, husky, brawling,
City of the Big Shoulders:
Purveyor of the all-beef wiener
on which no bottle of sin should ever squirt.

Best
Rob

I think those were the ORIGINAL words before Harriet Monroe insisted the words be changed if he wanted to see it published in her Poetry magazine.
Lincoln spoke in an oak grove west of Albion while stumping for William Henry Harrison and other Whigs in 1840.

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Joe,

This marker used to be at the opening of the trees on the north side of Illinois Route 15 where Lincoln spoke. It was later moved across the road in front of what was Edwards County High School (now a k-12). That marker, and a supposed swatch of wallpaper with Abraham Lincoln's blood from Ford's Theater hanging in the Edwards County Historical Society are part of what contributed to my interest in Lincoln.

Best
Rob

(08-27-2012 01:50 PM)Rob Wick Wrote: [ -> ]

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Joe,

This marker used to be at the opening of the trees on the north side of Illinois Route 15 where Lincoln spoke. It was later moved across the road in front of what was Edwards County High School (now a k-12). That marker, and a supposed swatch of wallpaper with Abraham Lincoln's blood from Ford's Theater hanging in the Edwards County Historical Society are part of what contributed to my interest in Lincoln.

Best
Rob

In a way, Lincoln's death started me on the path when I was 11. It was a LIFE article about the photo of Lincoln in his coffin that had just been found. I still have the original article in my collection. I then asked my dad if he had any books on Lincoln--he had a few. It was the start of a long obsession. Thanks for sharing how you got started.

I'd rather have apple butter on my cottage cheese. Pass the poppy seed rolls, please.

(08-27-2012 01:04 PM)Rob Wick Wrote: [ -> ][quote]What a hoot! We are on a Lincoln site and talking about ketchup!

speaking of Ketchup...

http://www.civilwarinteractive.com/Ketchup.htm

(08-27-2012 02:31 PM)Gene C Wrote: [ -> ][quote='Rob Wick' pid='3477' dateline='1346087059']

Quote:What a hoot! We are on a Lincoln site and talking about ketchup!

speaking of Ketchup...

http://www.civilwarinteractive.com/Ketchup.htm

Thanks! This is a great resource. I never realized what the history of the condiment was all about! In the UK they call it tomato sauce in many places. I tried making both ketchup and chili sauce many years ago when I had a bumper crop of tomatoes, and my ketchup--while good--was not as red as the commercial brands. Of the two things I made, the chili sauce had more flavor. Thanks, again!

I love that link! I knew about mushroom ketchup being one of the early forms, but the others are very interesting - not that I'm inspired to make any.

I wonder if a whortleberry is what we call huckleberries in Southern Maryland. That was the name of Thomas Jones's second place past which he traipsed Booth and Herold en route to the Potomac. In my childhood, you could stop anywhere along the back roads and pick huckleberries to your heart's content. Can't find them now, thanks to developments and the salt sprays during the winter.

Ketchup trivia - Country singer Hank Williams poured ketchup on everything he ate - including oatmeal.

(08-27-2012 03:11 PM)J. Beckert Wrote: [ -> ]Ketchup trivia - Country singer Hank Williams poured ketchup on everything he ate - including oatmeal.

"His burnin' heart,
will tell on him..."

Good postings by the two Joes - I will never see ketchup in the same light again!

When I was little there was a catsup plant just a few blocks from my house (down by the same river where the John S Ide is said to have sunk). Trucks would line up for miles in the summer, loaded with Jersey tomatoes to deliver, and the incredible aroma of catsup cooking could be smelled all over town ...

As a kid, I deemed ketchup and most meats to be inseparable, except for maybe chicken and liver(which I didn't like anyway).

I have been figuratively biting my tongue and trying to restrain myself, but I have not been successful--so here goes:
I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO TOMORROW WHEN WE CAN ALL START TO KETCHUP---OOPS, SORRY---CATCH-UP ON THINGS "LINCOLN"

Pretty good pun there, Mr. Di Cola - want to start a pun contest?