Lincoln Discussion Symposium

I don't think she would

Just a peck on the cheek between friends?

(05-23-2017 06:57 PM)LincolnMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2017 07:29 AM)Gene C Wrote: [ -> ]While on a recent trip to Oregon, I had to visit Lincoln City, a small resort town on the Pacific coast, where I found this statue.

Angela, found the same statue in Salzburg, Austria and posted about it here - http://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussio...l#pid32675
The same statue is also in New Salem.

Ms. Anna Hyatt Hunnington was famous for her equestrian statues. Which might explain why Lincoln is not looking as well as his horse. (Maybe it was just a boring section in the book he was reading). It was first offered to the University of Oregon, but they didn't want to pay the moving cost of $60,000. The town of Lincoln City somehow managed to raise the money so they got the statue.

And of course this the statue in New Salem. In Michigan the statue is in Midland and in Adrian.

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(05-23-2017 05:10 PM)RJNorton Wrote: [ -> ]Hint #1: The man Lincoln is facing is sitting.

Hint #1.5: He is a person who has been mentioned before on this forum.

Hint #1.75: The photo was taken on a college campus.

That is the Lincoln statue at Carthage College in Wisconsin. The seated gentleman is none other than John Hay.
Sidenote: I have been to the grave of John Hay. He is buried in Cleveland in the same cemetery as President Garfield. As important as a man as John Hay was in his life- there is nothing at his grave to denote it. If you didn't know who he was - you would never know he had been anyone special.

Gene -proportions remind a bit of Lucky Luke (strangely not in Angela's photos).
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Bill - maybe John Hay explicitly didn't want any hint on his grave?

Gene: I would have to guess not--which if so-- speaks volumes of him. Within eyeshot of Hay's grave is a giant obelisk---marking the final resting place of John D. Rockerfeller--quite a contrast.

Here is another statue of Abraham Lincoln with another man. Who is the other man?

This is a hard one.

Hint #1: The man served in the House of Representatives.

Hint #1.50: He has not been mentioned previously on the forum.

Hint #1.75: The statues are located in Illinois.

Roger: you got me on this one--no idea.
I wonder if there is a current statistic in how many Lincoln statues there are in the USA? It seems news one are cropping up all the time.

This is a tough one, Bill.

Hint #2: The statues were unveiled in 2009.

Hint #2.5 The other man, like Lincoln, was an attorney.

Hint #3: Lincoln spoke for 3 hours in this building. The other man then gave a brief response.

I'm guessing that the speech is the three-hour one in Peoria in 1854, so the building must be the old courthouse there. However, I have no idea who the other man in the statue pair is. Lincoln was debating Douglas, but that's not Douglas. Also, I had always heard that Douglas gave no reply after Lincoln's lengthy speech. I'm stumped.

I am sorry, Laurie, but it's not Peoria.

Hint #4: The two statues are in a town 120 miles from Peoria. The town is mostly south but also somewhat east of Peoria.

Is the statue in Shelbyville ?

(05-27-2017 06:16 PM)Gene C Wrote: [ -> ]Is the statue in Shelbyville ?

You stumbled on the same thing that I did, Gene. I kept trying to put the second man in the sculpture as Stephen Douglas, but Roger said it was someone never mentioned before on the forum.

I forget which site I first searched and found reference to a Lincoln-Thornton debate. I had never heard of Thornton, but I did find a photo of the artwork in Shelbyville, where the two men debated at the courthouse. Congratulations, you posted first.

After reading about these long speeches (seemingly most of the time), I'll stick with reading synopses of the content -- then and now. My attention span is growing increasingly short. I guess that means I'm in my second childhood.

But is that the correct answer?

Gene and Laurie, you win! The statues are in Shelbyville. Thornton was a Democrat and "debated" Lincoln in 1856. I have the word debated in quotes because some accounts say Lincoln gave a really long speech, Thornton gave a very brief response, and the word "debate" does not really describe what took place. Anyway, the statues were unveiled in 2009, and they commemorate the "debate" at the courthouse in Shelbyville in 1856.

Lincoln argued cases in the Shelby Circuit Courthouse. Once when he was in Shelbyville he tore his pants, but the tailor he visited could not fix them in time for court. The tailor lent Lincoln a pair of pants to wear temporarily, but they were way too short for the tall Lincoln. He then appeared in court with what looked like "knee pants."

Wikipedia includes an article on Thornton here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Th...sentative)

You both win a free meal at the Farmhouse Restaurant the next time you pass through Shelbyville.