Type of trial - Debate
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11-05-2014, 08:57 PM
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RE: Type of trial - Debate
I have the newspaper and Sue is correct!
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11-06-2014, 04:51 AM
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RE: Type of trial - Debate
Thanks, John and Herb (and again to Susan). I actually find Lincoln's Sons and Twenty Days similar in one respect - neither one is footnoted and both say things I have questioned. But every time I ask "what is the source for this" or "what is the source for that" someone on the forum finds the answer, and it's almost always in an old newspaper. Much appreciated!
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11-06-2014, 05:54 AM
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I think RTL had to be slick and cunning to survive!He did that with the Pullman Corp.
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11-06-2014, 10:28 AM
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RE: Type of trial - Debate
(03-11-2013 03:45 PM)Laurie Verge Wrote: Why were the Confederate Cabinet members and Gen. Lee never put on trial? Good point. If you begin with the notion that Lincoln's killing was an act of war during a time of war, then it follows that a military tribunal would be convened to try those involved with eliminating the president, who is the commander in chief of all Union forces, and various cabinet members. |
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11-11-2014, 12:33 PM
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RE: Type of trial - Debate
However,
Quote:In Ex parte Milligan (1866), the Supreme Court ruled that a prisoner's ability to challenge his or her detention could only be suspended for a brief and finite period of time, and only if the situation compelled it. The Court also ruled that military tribunals generally lack jurisdiction over civilians who are not connected with or engaged in armed conflict. Assessing the rights of an Indiana citizen accused of plotting against Union forces during the Civil War, the basic rules defined in Milligan are quite relevant today http://www.pbs.org/wnet/supremecourt/ant...parte.html The decision also found that Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus was unconstitutional - but it had already (of course) worked to put the conspirators into a "trial" in which they were not permitted to testify. On another note, the pursuit of Booth by the military was correct. Virginia (into which he fled) was under military occupational rule and had no state mechanisms (or loyal officers) to undertake such a task. Washington police civil authority had no jurisdiction in Virginia I would have to think (?) |
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11-11-2014, 01:24 PM
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The conspirators would not have been permitted to testify in a civil court at that time either. Only the State of Maine granted defendants that right in 1865.
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11-14-2014, 06:08 AM
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RE: Type of trial - Debate
(11-06-2014 10:28 AM)Rick Smith Wrote:(03-11-2013 03:45 PM)Laurie Verge Wrote: Why were the Confederate Cabinet members and Gen. Lee never put on trial? |
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11-14-2014, 08:40 AM
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I think that the was one big cover up!
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11-21-2014, 02:35 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-21-2014 02:48 PM by MajGenl.Meade.)
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RE: Type of trial - Debate
(11-11-2014 01:24 PM)L Verge Wrote: The conspirators would not have been permitted to testify in a civil court at that time either. Only the State of Maine granted defendants that right in 1865. Yes that was still the case when John Surratt was tried in the civil court system (11-14-2014 06:08 AM)John Fazio Wrote: Laurie: Hello John - long time, no see! I think you mean "then-General" Grant. Johnson was President when the indictment was dropped. Otherwise, your history is validated here: http://www.aleksandreia.com/2009/09/16/g...e-treason/ |
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