12-20-2017, 05:34 PM,
(This post was last modified: 12-20-2017, 05:35 PM by AussieMick.)
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AussieMick
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RE: Trivial Trivia - taking trivia to new levels
Well done for picking that connection, Susan. ( I didnt )
And of course congratulations to Roger for arriving first at Charles Wilkes. He was captain of the ship that was involved in removing the Confederate "ambassadors" from the British ship the Trent (Nottingham cricket ground is Trent Bridge).
Wilkes was a South Seas explorer and the character Cap'n Ahab may have been based upon him. His mother died when he was young and he was raised by Elizabeth Ann Seton (she died when she was 46). She is the patron saint of ... wait for it ...
saint of seafarers
I wonder how John Wilkes Booth came by his middle name. There was a John Wilkes who was an English MP that supported the War of Independence colonialists and was also a Catholic supporter.
"John Wilkes's brother was the grandfather of U.S. Naval Admiral Charles Wilkes."
Wikipaedia also says: In a famous exchange with John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich, where the latter exclaimed, "Sir, I do not know whether you will die on the gallows or of the pox," Wilkes is reported to have replied, "That depends, my lord, on whether I embrace your lordship's principles or your mistress."
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12-23-2017, 07:01 PM,
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Gene C
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RE: Trivial Trivia - taking trivia to new levels
(12-23-2017, 05:14 PM)AussieMick Wrote: I wonder how many others feel guilty when composing these trivia questions ?
Not me! 
But this does remind me of a Christmas song.
Guilt for Christmas by Ray Stevens
Merry Christmas!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4iTikV1CNg
So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in?
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12-23-2017, 08:27 PM,
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RE: Trivial Trivia - taking trivia to new levels
I am not about to wade into British history in relation to the American Civil War, but please read my response above and then let me attempt to tie it all together again. IF Bobby Charlton was born in Manchester, England, and I think played for that soccer team in the mid-1900s, it ties together with Raphael Semmes and his iron clad ship, Alabama, which was built in England (maybe in Manchester?) and tried to break American blockades in getting Confederate cotton to English mills where Lincoln's embargo was killing the English industry.
Does it all tie with the Manchester workers signing a pledge to support Lincoln because they were anti-slavery?
If I have even come close, riddle me this - What man who is suspected of having ties to the kidnap/assassination of Lincoln was sent to London as a Confederate purchasing agent involved in the cotton trade? And, in 1865, what infamous American fled to a sister city of Manchester in the UK? What was the city?
Side Note - Soccer was the big sport here when I was in school because football (America's game) was outlawed in most of our schools due to too many students getting injured. I vaguely remember an airplane crash that killed most of a British soccer team; wasn't Charlton one of the sole survivors? I think this was mentioned a few years ago when an American sports team was wiped out in a similar plane crash.
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12-23-2017, 08:29 PM,
(This post was last modified: 12-23-2017, 08:36 PM by Eva Elisabeth.)
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RE: Trivial Trivia - taking trivia to new levels
Just found this but still no clue what else.
http://www.gmmg.org.uk/our-connected-his...-scabbard/
(Guess all knives over here are made in Solingen...)
(12-23-2017, 08:27 PM)AussieMick Wrote: (12-23-2017, 08:22 PM)Eva Elisabeth Wrote: (12-23-2017, 07:18 AM)AussieMick Wrote: When I wrote England ... a particular city ... Bobby Charlton came from there. Eva might know of Bobby Charlton. I'm guessing that because her recent Post in another Thread. Sorry, didn't check the thread after considering the question way off my abilities (plus just returned home for Xmas break after some months abroad, a lot off-line to do). Not sure to which of my posts you refer to and no clue about the question but sure know THE WEMBLEY GOAL...
He played for ManU, and in that national team of 1966...
Yes! Well done Eva. Manchester United. ( The goal I think you're referring to was scored by Geoff Hurst ... and I think most people now regard it as the 1966 "goal" ).
So you've got Manchester. Yes... and here it's still the "Wembley goal"...
PS: I'm just thinking that you beat me now as for being ahead time...
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12-23-2017, 08:36 PM,
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RE: Trivial Trivia - taking trivia to new levels
(12-23-2017, 08:27 PM)L Verge Wrote: If I have even come close, riddle me this - What man who is suspected of having ties to the kidnap/assassination of Lincoln was sent to London as a Confederate purchasing agent involved in the cotton trade? And, in 1865, what infamous American fled to a sister city of Manchester in the UK? What was the city?
Benjamin Ficklin? John Surratt/Liverpool?
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