Trivia question

[AussieMick]

What issue caused the following to be written ...

"We would respectfully remind you of the object lesson afforded by the United States at the conclusion of their Civil War. The leaders of the South were entirely in the power of the North. Many of them were officers and officials who had sworn allegiance to the laws of the United States and had afterwards taken up arms and inflicted enormous losses upon her. None the less not one of these men was executed, and this policy of mercy was attended by such happy results that a breach which seemed to be irreparable has now been happily sealed over.”

Googling ? I've tested it and I dont think its going to help, but you can try.

Some hints might be needed.

[David Lockmiller]

And in conclusion he brings Abraham Lincoln’s policy towards the defeated South into the fray and begs for mercy: “We would respectfully remind you of the object lesson afforded by the United States at the conclusion of their Civil War. The leaders of the South were entirely in the power of the North. Many of them were officers and officials who had sworn allegiance to the laws of the United States and had afterwards taken up arms and inflicted enormous losses upon her. None the less not one of these men was executed, and this policy of mercy was attended by such happy results that a breach which seemed to be irreparable has now been happily sealed over.”

The amazing tale of how "My Fair Lady's" George Bernard Shaw and "Sherlock Holmes'" Arthur Conan Doyle fought to save Casement from the hangman’s noose.

Google search term in quotes: "not one of these men was executed"

I would suggest that one might first view the one minute video at the end of the article before reading the article itself.

[Gene C]

The 1916 Irish Rebellion Eater Uprising ?

[David Lockmiller]

(05-23-2024 11:35 AM)Gene C Wrote:  The 1916 Irish Rebellion Eater Uprising ?

Yes, watch the video (at the 45 second mark) for confirmation.

[AussieMick]

Yes, well done Gene. Good searching techniques obviously and maybe coupled with knowledge of the issue.
And to David. well done for mentioning the video ... I hadnt realised it was there even though Ive accessed that artticle many times.

Casement (Sir Roger) was one very unusual man. Briefly (as brief as I can make it and in my own opinion) :-

He was a hero to most of the world for his first 40 years or so . He publicised cruelties in Africa and South America and met with President William Howard Taft. But he joined the Irish fighting for independence from Britain and at the start of WW1 went to Germany arranging for rifles etc to be sent to Ireland, and also tried to persuade Irish POWs there to go back and fight the Brits. Suffering from malaria, he went back to Ireland in a submarine (12 days and over 6 foot tall) he landed on a beach and was captured. The ship carrying rifles sank.

He was found guilty of treason (a 14 Century law written in old French) and hanged. Petitions (like Conan Doyle's) failed. Mainly because British Intelligence had obtained "Diaries" that he had written about his homosexual experiences with African and South American young men. The Diaries are still suspected as being forgeries ... by some, but most think they're genuine. Extracts from these were shown to influential journalists and diplomats. The Defence team could have used the Diaries and argued he was insane, but decided not to ... Casement didnt want that either.

oh ... and the leader of the Prosecution in the trial was Mr F.E. Smith who went on to become Lord Birkenhead, Lord Chancellor. In 1914 he'd been very much opposed to Irish Independence and was involved enlisting Northern Irish Protestants to get firearms from Germany to be used to potentially fight against British troops.

Oh, and Casement tried to get the Uprising cancelled (but this fact was never mentioned at his trial) because he thought it'd be a disaster.

the following is a very long article
https://breac.nd.edu/articles/roger-case...d-america/

[AussieMick]

I think you will need to use Google for this ....
How is 115 Commonwealth Avenue connected to Charles Dodgson ? .... nothing to do with Washington , its not Commonwealth Avenue Washington.

Yes, this is relevant to this forum.

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Not Commonwealth avenue in Australia

[RJNorton]

Does this have to do with Lewis Carroll?

[AussieMick]

Yes, Roger. Well done. You deserve a clue. One of the Commonwealth states is the location for this 115 Commonwealth Avenue.

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It's the address, not the building, which points to a person

[AussieMick]

I think there's just a few (4) "Commonwealth states" in the U.S. All 4 have a Commonwealth Ave

But only one 115 Commonwealth Ave has interesting history ... for us anyway

(Easy for me to say)

[David Lockmiller]

(10-19-2024 09:58 PM)AussieMick Wrote:  I think there's just a few (4) "Commonwealth states" in the U.S. All 4 have a Commonwealth Ave

But only one 115 Commonwealth Ave has interesting history ... for us anyway

(Easy for me to say)

John Wilkes Booth purchased property in the newly developed Back Bay area, at 115 Commonwealth Avenue in 1863. This was not a speculative financial purchase. His brother resided in Boston for 15 years. Instructions to the real estate agent were clear that this would be his home.

Walk Boston History

John Wilkes Booth stayed at the Parker House [Boston] in April 1865​. He practiced shooting with a pistol on School Street over the five-day stay in April 1865.

[AussieMick]

Well done David. Yes ... you are on the way to the answer.

Booth is connected, in a very special way via a person, to Lewis Carroll .

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I doubt that Google will help now.

[RJNorton]

Possible mercury poisoning - both Boston Corbett and the Mad Hatter?

[AussieMick]

Argh! Roger! I thought I could string it out longer.

Seriously, well done. You got it .... and saved me struggling for hints.

Erethism
"Mad hatter disease is a form of chronic mercury poisoning. Depending on the level of exposure, it can cause symptoms like vomiting, skin rashes, tremors, twitching, and excitability. The condition is called “mad hatter disease” because it commonly affected hat makers in the 18th to 20th centuries"

Alice In Wonderland had a 'Mad hatter' and it seems that 'Boston' (David had half the name in his Post as part of the address) Corbett suffered from a mental illness and worked as a Hatter for some time.

BTW Dodgson came up with some inventions including a voting system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodgson%27s_method
"The method searches for a majority-preferred winner; if no such winner is found, the method proceeds by finding the candidate who could be transformed into a Condorcet winner with the smallest number of ballot edits possible, where a ballot edit switches two neighboring candidates on a voter's ballot"