Who is this lady?

[RJNorton]

(10-28-2019 02:30 PM)L Verge Wrote:  Let's try either of Robert and Mary Lincoln's daughters -- Jesse or Mamie (with emphasis on Mamie)? No idea about the other part of the question, however.

Laurie, it cannot be one of those daughters as they would not have known Lincoln. (Unless Susan is not referring to Abraham Lincoln where she said "Lincoln.") Susan, did you mean Abraham?

[Rob Wick]

How about Helen Nicolay for the biograper's child?

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Rob

[Susan Higginbotham]

No. Think bluegrass, folks.

[Rob Wick]

Could it be Emilie Todd Helm?

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Rob

[L Verge]

(10-28-2019 03:16 PM)RJNorton Wrote:  

(10-28-2019 02:30 PM)L Verge Wrote:  Let's try either of Robert and Mary Lincoln's daughters -- Jesse or Mamie (with emphasis on Mamie)? No idea about the other part of the question, however.

Laurie, it cannot be one of those daughters as they would not have known Lincoln. (Unless Susan is not referring to Abraham Lincoln where she said "Lincoln.") Susan, did you mean Abraham?

Oops, I was thinking back to knowing a First Lady (which we had been enumerating), so thought of her granddaughters.

[Eva Elisabeth]

(10-27-2019 10:53 PM)Steve Wrote:  

(10-27-2019 08:21 PM)Eva Elisabeth Wrote:  Has she been mentioned on the forum? A US lady? (Or some UK royal?) Is the quote of the first half of the 20th century? (Is it about baseball?)

Eva, the World Series is the championship of the highest-level professional league which covers U.S. and Canada baseball (called the "major leagues"). As I'm writing this, game 5 of the 2019 World Series is being played right now. So the mystery woman of the quote is likely to be an American.

My next guess will be Alice Roosevelt Longworth.

Thanks, Steve - I knew there is a World Series in baseball, but I wasn't sure if other sports in the US possibly have a World Series, too. The tournament is similar to German "Bundesliga" - but there is a Bundesliga in soccer, handball, basketball, every team sports (not baseball as there is no baseball over here). Of course, usually if not specified, "Bundesliga" would first imply the soccer Bundesliga as this is sports #1. (So, there is no other World Series than baseball?)
(I'm guessing Rob is right...)

[Susan Higginbotham]

(10-28-2019 06:02 PM)Rob Wick Wrote:  Could it be Emilie Todd Helm?

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Rob

Rob nailed it! The quote is from Mary Genevieve Townsend Murphy, who was a friend of Emily and her children and whose father, William Townsend, wrote Lincoln and His Wife's Home Town and Lincoln and the Bluegrass. The World Series was first broadcast on radio in 1921, so Emily, who died in 1930 at age 93, would have been able to listen to a number of games before her death. Townsend purchased the Helm home outside of Lexington, KY, in 1946. There were plans to turn into into a museum, but those have been scrapped and the last I heard, the house was up for sale. Murphy wrote a pamphlet, The Story of Helm Place and the People Who Have Called It Home.

[Susan Higginbotham]

To whom is Mary Lincoln referring?

"She had alighted from her carriage and was selecting some gorgeous tablecovers--our eyes met & we looked earnestly at each other, yet until she left the store, I did not know, who she was. Of course she will always remain in ignorance, regarding me."

[Anita]

Did this encounter take place during the White House years?

[RJNorton]

Emma Smith? (in Springfield, January 1843)

[Susan Higginbotham]

Anita, no, the encounter did not take place during Lincoln's presidency.
Roger, sorry, not Emma.

I do not believe the lady has been mentioned on this forum.

[RJNorton]

Did this happen when Mary was in Europe?

[L Verge]

Was it in New York and a chance encounter with Varina Davis?

[Susan Higginbotham]

Laurie, no.

Roger, yes, it was a European encounter.

[Rogerm]

Was it Queen Victoria?