In What Year Did It Happen?

[RJNorton]

Was Gorbachev the General Secretary you are referring to?

[Anita]

Following Roger's lead, if it is Gorbachev , then is the year 1991? If yes, it's the coup attempt against Gorbachev? The Lincoln connection would be when Booth and his conspirators planned to kidnap Lincoln?

[Rob Wick]

I'm going to go a different route and say Khrushchev, who in 1959 met with Eisenhower in Washington and toured the Lincoln Memorial, saying it was his favorite site, although I have to admit that I'm unsure how the end of the world would fit in unless it was Khrushchev's role in the Cuban Missile Crisis later.

Best
Rob

[AussieMick]

No, sorry Roger and Rob but fascinating attempts.
A gentleman of the cloth was involved.

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(07-01-2024 08:27 PM)Anita Wrote:  Following Roger's lead, if it is Gorbachev , then is the year 1991? If yes, it's the coup attempt against Gorbachev? The Lincoln connection would be when Booth and his conspirators planned to kidnap Lincoln?

No sorry Anita.


The year was much earlier.

[AussieMick]

Nothing to do with assassination

[RJNorton]

Joseph Stalin?

[AussieMick]

No, sorry Roger.
We're getting through the General Secretaries .... but not reached there yet.

Er, when I said his name was a connection I didn't say it was his surname.

[Rob Wick]

Is there some connection between Nikolai Lenin and John Nicolay. No idea of a date or end of the world.

Best
Rob

[Anita]

V. I. Lenin in October 1917. The Russian Civil War. The connection with Lincoln would be the American Civil War. Lenin compared the Russian and American Civil wars in his letter to American Workers https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/w...aug/20.htm

"The American people have a revolutionary tradition which has been adopted by the best representatives of the American proletariat, who have repeatedly expressed their complete solidarity with us Bolsheviks. That tradition is the war of liberation against the British in the eighteenth century and the Civil War in the nineteenth century. In some respects, if we only take into consideration the “destruction” of some branches of industry and of the national economy, America in 1870 was behind 1860. But what a pedant, what an idiot would anyone be to deny on these grounds the immense, world-historic, progressive and revolutionary significance of the American Civil War of 1863-65!

The representatives of the bourgeoisie understand that for the sake of overthrowing Negro slavery, of overthrowing the rule of the slaveowners, it was worth letting the country go through long years of civil war, through the abysmal ruin, destruction and terror that accompany every war. But now, when we are confronted with the vastly greater task of overthrowing capitalist wage-slavery, of overthrowing the rule of the bourgeoisie—now, the representatives and defenders of the bourgeoisie, and also the reformist socialists who have been frightened by the bourgeoisie and are shunning the revolution, cannot and do not want to understand that civil war is necessary and legitimate."

[AussieMick]

Rob, Anita... great ideas.. But not correct.

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Yes, it's the first name not surname which is involved.

[Rob Wick]

Okay, here goes nothing.

Russia was among the first countries to present official condolences upon the assassination of U.S. President Abraham Lincoln. The message came in a letter on behalf of the Tsar from Prince Alexander Mikhailovich Gorchakov, Russia’s foreign minister from 1856–1882, who wrote, “it is easy for me to realize in advance the impression which the news of this odious crime will cause his Imperial Majesty to experience.”

So I will say Mikhail Gorbachev, 1865, Lincoln's assassination, in the drawing room, with a candlestick (poor attempt at humor). Still no idea about the end of the world.

Best
Rob

[Anita]

I think Rob is on the right track.

[AussieMick]

He was quite a lion but , sorry, Mikhail is incorrect.

[AussieMick]

" Lion "

[AussieMick]

This refers to a specific event , the name of a General Secretary of the Soviet Union is associated with it.

Lincoln, when the Civil war was at its worse, was asked about the permanency of the Union, and he referred to this event that happened years earlier.

What was the event and when did it happen?