Mike, have you read Finis Bates book, "The Escape and Suicide of John Wiles Booth"?
https://archive.org/details/escapesuicid...te/page/n5

If you have read it, what do you think, do you believe it?

I've read that book and I'll wait on Mike before giving my scathing review.

Never have read it.

(05-06-2019 04:07 PM)LincolnMan Wrote:  Never have read it.

Don't bother, imo. Mr. Bates and Mr. Eisenschml have caused a great deal of frustration in my life.

Laurie, it is full of inaccuracies and falsehoods. Mr. Bates does no real research into anything.

(05-06-2019 04:39 PM)L Verge Wrote:  

(05-06-2019 04:07 PM)LincolnMan Wrote:  Never have read it.

Don't bother, imo. Mr. Bates and Mr. Eisenschml have caused a great deal of frustration in my life.

You’re word is good enough for me, Laurie.

(05-06-2019 05:42 PM)GustD45 Wrote:  Laurie, it is full of inaccuracies and falsehoods. Mr. Bates does no real research into anything.

Don't try telling his granddaughter that! When we were involved in the 1990s court cases re: exhuming JWB's body, I made an attempt to contact Kathy Bates for her thoughts and got waylaid by her rep (who I think was her niece?). The lady was very nice, but made it clear that Kathy stands by her grandfather's opinions. Sort of like someone else we know???

Booth Mummy Found

Headline reads " Mummified Human Torso Found in Detroit Basement, reports say"

No need to read the full article, who else could it possibly be?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/mummified-hum...nt-reports

For you skeptics out there, with some computer technology and some old polaroids stored in my attic (a West Virginia flea market find), they will soon be able to identify the mummy as Booth's.
The dead give away, "the torso was found in the basement near a bar area".
All these years and we've just been looking in the wrong place.
Yes, I know all the Lincoln scholars will come up with some really nice sounding "evidence" on why it's not him, but I have the photographic proof and a UNIVAC computer combination vacuum cleaner that says otherwise.
As my good friend, Rongway Remaines says, "This changes everything"

Thanks to Steve for sending this article. Steve writes that the article is "from page 2 of the 23 Jan. 1903 edition of the Wichita Daily Eagle which quotes an article from The Oklahoman. This Oklahoman article quotes a man named C. M. Clark who claims to have known David E. George since he young in Mississippi. However, I'm skeptical of a good bit of what Clark describes of George's earlier life, so I'm not sure if we should believe anything Clark says."

I'm sure there must be at least a basic file on David E. George in the Hall Papers at Surratt House. This is a very busy time for us, but we'll try and check to see what background info there is.

(05-05-2019 08:10 AM)mikegriffith1 Wrote:  If the scientific evidence discussed in the Discovery Channel documentary somehow isn't good enough for you . . . .

For those of you who rely on the Discovery Channel for "scientific evidence," you certainly will not want to miss Discovery, Inc.'s other airings, such as Animal Planet:

"Animal Planet’s Finding Bigfoot chronicles the adventures of the Bigfoot Field Research Organization (BFRO) as they search North America and around the world for sasquatches (also known as yowies in Australia or orang-pendek in Indonesia). Through photos, videos, interviews and new technology, the BFRO team is out to prove, once and for all, that these mysterious creatures exist.

"This season viewers will also be treated to a special pre-show moderated by series Executive Producer Keith Hoffman, bringing together the team to share greater detail and information that does not make it into the final cut. Don’t miss the return of Finding Bigfoot…only on Animal Planet!"

You mean Bigfoot isn’t real?

Oh, ye of little faith. Mock all you like.
http://www.yowiehunters.net/index.php

I had a quick look at the forum ... quick ? I could spend hours of amusement reading the posts ... here's the first post that I looked at ...
"Back in 1990 my dad and I was fishing in Lake Jubilee near the foot bridge back water, when dad said did you see the Mark? I looked on the other side of the small creek and seen a big black puma yes a puma not a small cat.We walked around to the spot where it was drinking from, there were good size paw prints in the mud, but we didn't take a photo of them because it started to rain hard."

(note the skilled grammar ... but best part of it is this :
"we didn't take a photo of them because it started to rain hard" ... love it! Our indomitable Aussie spirit beaten by the rain ... so there's no photo ... aw shucks!)

(05-08-2019 10:09 AM)L Verge Wrote:  I'm sure there must be at least a basic file on David E. George in the Hall Papers at Surratt House. This is a very busy time for us, but we'll try and check to see what background info there is.

I passed a request on to our archivist at the Hall Research Center, and here is her reply:

Oh my goodness….. Mr. Hall has an entire file drawer on David E. George.

Here’s the folders listing:

George-Booth Myth (David E. George binder #1, Oakland University files)
George-Booth Myth (David E. George binder #2, Oakland University files)
George-Booth Myth (David E. George binder #3, Oakland University files)
George-Booth Myth (David E. George binder #1, Oakland University files)
George, David E.
George, David E.--The Black Manuscript--Oakland University
George, David E.--The Hugh B. Ryan Alias
George, David E.--Enid Public Library
George, David E.--The Story of... by Diane McFarlane
George, David E.--Land Transaction
George, David E.--The Mummy
George, David E.--Pictures, Signatures
George, David E.--The Enid Booth Legend by Helen Jo Banks
George, David E., as Booth
George, David E.--Enid Daily Wave
George, David E.--Hoax, Deathbed Confession
George, David E.--Death of S. S.Dumont, Lee Boyd, Dr. R. A. Field
George, David E.--Miscellaneous

Don't expect an immediate report on David E. George as gathered by reputable historians in the field...

The Oakland University files pertain to Henry Ford's investigator, Fred Black, who spent a huge amount of time determining if the mummy was appropriate for the Dearborn museum or was nothing but a hoax. Since the mummy never made it to Dearborn, Michigan, perhaps it is safe to say that Henry Ford "didn't buy it" -- neither the mummy nor the hoax!

May we spare my overworked, part-time archivist the time of compiling an albeit brief summary of the story of David E. George and just "not buy it" ourselves?

That's impressive.

One day I'd love to come and spend a week looking through things.