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02-01-2014, 05:42 PM,
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brtmchl
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RE: Backstage at the Lincoln Assassination
I had just gotten to that part as well Bill. I had the same reaction as you. It seems eerily predestined.
" Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the American Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford
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02-01-2014, 07:47 PM,
(This post was last modified: 02-01-2014, 07:51 PM by Tom Bogar.)
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Tom Bogar
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RE: Backstage at the Lincoln Assassination
(02-01-2014, 06:00 PM)Anita Wrote: No wonder Booth had the timing down so well. What part did he play?
That I didn't find out, but I understand that Terry Alford will reveal it (among other wonderful new material) in his forthcoming Fortune's Fool bio of Booth.
(02-01-2014, 01:31 PM)LincolnMan Wrote: Thanks Tom. It's amazing really. I wonder if he performed in any of those with Laura Keene?
Not that I ever discovered. That would be too eerie (and certainly would have been outed before now). He did, however, perform in it in December 1859 in Richmond the same week that the Marsh Juvenile Troupe, that Jeannie and Maggie Gourlay were in, were performing at the same theater.
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02-02-2014, 03:50 PM,
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Tom Bogar
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RE: Backstage at the Lincoln Assassination
(02-02-2014, 08:42 AM)LincolnMan Wrote: Tom: the book continues to reveal new things for me. I had not known about the costume issue with John Matthews- and how Harry Hawk had "suspected" him because of it. That tid bit further illuminates how Matthews must have been completely terrified that he might be implicated in the murder.
I know. Even in 1878 he told the New York Herald, “I get a touch of the throat disease [i.e., hanging] whenever I think of it."
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02-03-2014, 10:05 AM,
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Eva Elisabeth
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RE: Backstage at the Lincoln Assassination
Bill, good question. Although his behavior, means and actions are the same used for bullying, the purpose seems to me a decisive difference.
This is how bullying is defined (on Wikipedia):
"Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively impose domination over others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual. One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by others, of an imbalance of social or physical power."
I read that 15 states have defined bullying among school children in their state laws (we don't have anywhere). Colorado's state law e.g. defines bullying among school children as “any written or verbal expression,or physical act or gesture,or a pattern thereof,that is intended to cause distress upon one or more students."
I think the decisive point is the paramount purpose of making others "go along with his plans/demands", his purpose is not solely to "demonstrate power" or "cause others distress" (possibly a by-purpose though). As I understand it, bullying mostly lacks other purposes than the latter ones. Thus Booth's behavior wouldn't match the definition of "bullying".
My question (that arose while thinking about Bill's): Did JWB have "real" friends/intimates, or was he rather a "lone wolf"?
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02-03-2014, 10:52 AM,
(This post was last modified: 02-03-2014, 10:55 AM by Gene C.)
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Gene C
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RE: Backstage at the Lincoln Assassination
I think Booth had real friends. He was good looking, had some talent, a good income, from a famous family, and only 27. He seemed to make friends easily. Probably the type of guy you'd like to go to a ball game with, but don't want him dating your sister.
I don't know if he was a bully, but he certainly was manipulative.
So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in?
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