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  The Tragic Death of Fido
Posted by: RJNorton - 01-27-2021, 11:58 AM - Forum: Abraham Lincoln before his Presidency - Replies (2)

Although Fido's death occurred in 1866 I am putting this post here because it is in Springfield where the Fido stories take place. There is a very interesting article on the death of Fido in the current newsletter of the Abraham Lincoln Association (For The People). The article mentions something I had not read before. I had always read that a drunken man (Charles Planck) stabbed Fido purposefully because the dog placed his paws on him. But the article mentions that Planck's stabbing may possibly have been more accidental than purposeful. Congrats to Brian Steenbergen on a very interesting piece.

Steenbergen's source for the possibility of an accidental death is an article in the February 20, 1893, Springfield Journal. Many thanks to anyone who could post this article.

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  The Almanac Trial
Posted by: Gene C - 11-06-2020, 01:38 PM - Forum: Abraham Lincoln before his Presidency - Replies (1)

Below is a blog written by George Dekle author of Abraham Lincoln's Most Famous Case: The Almanac Trial
The blog, written over a five year period, provides some interesting information regarding this trial. As the book is a bit more than I usually spend on a book, reading his blog might give you an insight as to whether or not you want to purchase the book, since the least expensive copy is $31.16 for a kindle version.
https://www.amazon.com/Abraham-Lincolns-...5XPBJKRGEC

What I've read of the blog is fairly interesting. I started reading his oldest entries first.
http://almanac-trial.blogspot.com/2013/0...trial.html

" I learned a lot of interesting details about the trial and its background, so many that I could not get everything to fit within the publisher’s word limit. I began this blog so that I could share these details with the public. When the book comes out in print, I will begin posting periodic stories about the aspects of the trial which I couldn’t fit into the book. Stay tuned for future posts."

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  The Lincolns of Springfield Illinois
Posted by: Rob Wick - 08-07-2020, 01:17 PM - Forum: Abraham Lincoln before his Presidency - Replies (2)

Came across this documentary done by Sangamon State University about the Lincoln home. It chronicles the 1980s renovation of the Lincoln home and features Charles Strozier and Jean Baker among others.

There were some things here I didn't know. For example, if I knew that the house had a basement, I had forgotten it. It's definitely worth your time.

Best
Rob

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI3gsDeopxY

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  Charles Dresser - (Lincoln Marriage, Lincoln Home)
Posted by: Gene C - 07-23-2020, 02:26 PM - Forum: Abraham Lincoln before his Presidency - Replies (3)

Nice article from the Sangamon Link web site about the minister who performed the marriage ceremony for Abraham and Mary.

He also sold them the home they lived in up to 1861.

According to this article, the Abraham Lincoln Association is going to build a replica of the home as it appeared when the Lincoln's first purchased it.

https://sangamoncountyhistory.org/wp/?p=12248

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  Lincoln's Postmaster Career
Posted by: Gene C - 06-16-2020, 06:56 AM - Forum: Abraham Lincoln before his Presidency - Replies (6)

On this day in history, June 14, Abraham Lincoln closed his accounts as postmaster of New Salem.

More, on Abraham Lincoln Online
http://abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/...uiz696.htm

Mail delivery hasn't been the same in New Salem since.

Undecided I'd have posted this earlier, but my email is running a bit slow.

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  A Question. Lincoln and Child Labor issue.
Posted by: Mylye2222 - 05-07-2020, 11:48 AM - Forum: Abraham Lincoln before his Presidency - Replies (6)

We know that AL didn't like the farm work and would rather had spent more time in a classroom.
We know that during his first Legislature campaign, he spoke endorsing public instruction as large as possible.
But what were his wiews regarding child labor? Did he wanted to reform it, or did he accepted the fact people got illiterate their whole life as an unchallengable necessity to deal with ? Do you have any documentation about that? Since he was obviously sollicitous to kids, his own and others, I'm wondering.

Thank You.

Émilie.

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  C. W. Young Presentation Cane whereabouts
Posted by: Tibackme - 04-23-2020, 05:52 PM - Forum: Abraham Lincoln before his Presidency - Replies (2)

Greetings,

Impressed by the knowledge viewed in everybody's postings, I came to the conclusion that this would be a great place to request some help in my quest to discover the location of a cane that has piqued my curiosity.

While doing some research pertaining to my County the following transcription of a news item in the February 12th 1861 edition of the Nevada Democrat caught my eye:

"CANE PRESENTATION-- A Springfield, Ill., correspondent, writing January 11th states that Lincoln was presented that day with an elegant gold-headed rosewood cane, valued at $250 by Jas. Churchman of Nevada, and Samuel Gamage of San Francisco, in the name of CW young of Nevada. It was a manzanita cane not Rosewood."

Whoa, I've never heard tell of this hereabouts before, and just to let you know, hereabouts equals Nevada County, California. James Churchman and C. W. Young were Pioneer citizens of this County, more precisely of Nevada City, California. Churchman had earlier on been a friend of Lincoln, back in his own days in Illinois. Charles William Young was found to have been the first person to establish a jewelry store in Nevada City.

Further research revealed other mentions of the cane, the date of presentation changing slightly, as well as how it is engraved. Following is a sample of one transcription from the book: Sixteenth President-in-Waiting: Abraham Lincoln and the Springfield Dispatches of Henry Villard, 1860 - 1861 ~ Edited by Michael Burlingame.

To ABRAHAM LINCOLN
First Republican President of the United States
From C. W. Young, Nevada City, Cal.

It was also discovered that this cane was handed down beyond Lincoln's death, to Ninian Wirt Edwards – from him it went to his son Charles - - and from Charles to his brother, Albert.

Albert Edwards was the custodian of the Lincoln Home in Springfield, and records indicate that he left items in his estate that were to go to the Lincoln Home. Beyond Albert's death, his daughters were custodians of the Lincoln Home. I would imagine that to some of you the Edwards information might already be known.

In an effort to see if the cane might possibly be at the Lincoln home, I sent an email there, but as you can no doubt guess, the current predicament we are in has erected a roadblock from learning anything via this route.

So, I'm hoping that someone might have knowledge of this cane and its present whereabouts, or a tip to where else I might obtain more clues to where the cane is now.

It is my belief that this story would be a fascinating read, to not only those in my local, but to people who have an interest in Abraham Lincoln everywhere. Thus, the present location from which I hope to obtain a picture of the cane, along with seeing precisely how it is engraved to accompany my story is the goal I have in mind.

Thanks to everyone in advance, and here's hoping this finds you well.

P.S. I should let you know that my postings might be somewhat delayed. I usually do my research from our local library, which of course is closed. The use of a touch screen tablet I am just learning to use is creating fits and ties. So, please bear with me. Thanks again.

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  Lincoln House Fire ?
Posted by: Gene C - 04-14-2020, 04:06 PM - Forum: Abraham Lincoln before his Presidency - Replies (9)

I was reading Katherine Helm's book, "True Story of Mary, Wife of Lincoln" and I came across this on page 106-107.

"Mr. and Mrs. Lincoln went to a large party at the
Ridgleys leaving everything apparently secure at home
with a maid to watch the children. The party was very
delightful, but Mary grew restless and anxious, and
finally said 'Mr. Lincoln, we must go home.' (Mary
never called her husband by his first name, Abraham
or Abr'am, but always formally 'Mr. Lincoln.' I never
heard her speak to him in any other way except in talking
to her children, when she would say, 'Father said'
thus and so.) We must go home, Mr. Lincoln,' she
repeated, but he was reluctant and suggested that they
stay a while longer. She insisted, however, that she
must go and told him she would get someone to take her
home that he might stay and enjoy himself. With his
unfailing kindness, he said, 'I will take you home. We
will find everything all right and then we can come
back and enjoy the rest of the evening.' They did not
come back, however, as they found the house on fire,
the maid fast asleep, and the children's lives in danger.
Mr. Lincoln said he was glad he had a wife who could
'sniff fire a quarter of a mile away.'
https://archive.org/details/truestoryofm...m/mode/2up

I've never heard of this before, so I wrote Joe Di Cola and Dave Grimm about it.
Joe says it's not in "By Square & Compass" by Wayne Temple, and nothing in Lincoln Day By Day. Dave has never heard of it before either.

Any one ever heard of this?

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  Was Abraham Lincoln actually born in NC? One local group claims they can prove it
Posted by: ELCore - 04-08-2020, 03:25 PM - Forum: Abraham Lincoln before his Presidency - Replies (1)

They say he was born in Puzzle Creek near Bostic in Rutherford County in North Carolina. They have plaques and all!

Was Abraham Lincoln actually born in NC? One local group claims they can prove it

This is video of a news (?) report, March 20th.

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  Debates with John Calhoun and Alfred W. Cavarly in Springfield, Illinois, 1844
Posted by: Amy L. - 03-25-2020, 04:55 AM - Forum: Abraham Lincoln before his Presidency - Replies (5)

Might I ask - Which John Calhoun is this?  Are there other records on the content of the debate?
https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/te...ncoln1:352

Did Lincoln 'entirely demolish' the positions of the (to be) Senator from South Carolina? 

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