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L Verge · 02-11-2015, 03:48 PM

Someone who is good at finding obscure articles in hometown newspapers is needed! I believe that the article appeared in the Saturday, July 13, 1907, edition of the Lower Merion News, published in Ardmore, Pennsylvania.

I have a small chunk of yellowed and brittle newsprint with the article entitled On The Stage When Lincoln Was Shot. It describes an Elks convention in Philadelphia where Harry Hawk was residing (on the Main Line in Bryn Mawr - Harry must have done well as an actor!). Harry was a prominent member of the Elks and shared his story of the Lincoln assassination in a special Elks edition of the Philadelphia Telegraph.

I would like to have the full article from either of those two papers if there is a Sherlock Holmes out there.

RJNorton · 02-11-2015, 04:17 PM

Laurie, I am not sure this is the same article, but I found this possibility.

It's the article titled "Saw Lincoln Shot." You may have to enlarge the print.

L Verge · 02-11-2015, 04:34 PM

This appears to be another version of the same story. Thank you.

Pamela · 02-11-2015, 09:17 PM

(02-11-2015 04:34 PM)L Verge Wrote: This appears to be another version of the same story. Thank you.

I gave it a shot looking for the article but was dumbfounded to see the last surviving person in Ford's theater that night on I've Got A Secret in 1956. You already know about that, right? A Lincoln assassination witness on TV! Mind blowing, really.

Tom Bogar · 02-12-2015, 02:01 PM

(02-11-2015 03:48 PM)L Verge Wrote: Someone who is good at finding obscure articles in hometown newspapers is needed! I believe that the article appeared in the Saturday, July 13, 1907, edition of the Lower Merion News, published in Ardmore, Pennsylvania.

I have a small chunk of yellowed and brittle newsprint with the article entitled On The Stage When Lincoln Was Shot. It describes an Elks convention in Philadelphia where Harry Hawk was residing (on the Main Line in Bryn Mawr - Harry must have done well as an actor!). Harry was a prominent member of the Elks and shared his story of the Lincoln assassination in a special Elks edition of the Philadelphia Telegraph.

I would like to have the full article from either of those two papers if there is a Sherlock Holmes out there.

Laurie, I believe that that article (that begins with a sentence about Harry Hawk contentedly among his chickens in Bryn Mawr, and is titled "On the Stage When Lincoln was Shot") originally appeared in the Philadelphia Evening Telegram of July 8, 1907, and then may have been picked up by smaller regional papers. I have the article. If you quote a sentence or two from the fragment you have, I can verify it.

Thomas Kearney · 02-12-2015, 02:10 PM

Wish I could, but I have a college visit this weekend

DKEast · 04-18-2015, 06:23 PM

(02-11-2015 09:17 PM)Pamela Wrote:
(02-11-2015 04:34 PM)L Verge Wrote: This appears to be another version of the same story. Thank you.
I gave it a shot looking for the article but was dumbfounded to see the last surviving person in Ford's theater that night on I've Got A Secret in 1956. You already know about that, right? A Lincoln assassination witness on TV! Mind blowing, really.

Who was the guest?

ReignetteC · 04-18-2015, 06:59 PM

(04-18-2015 06:23 PM)DKEast Wrote:
(02-11-2015 09:17 PM)Pamela Wrote:
(02-11-2015 04:34 PM)L Verge Wrote: This appears to be another version of the same story. Thank you.
I gave it a shot looking for the article but was dumbfounded to see the last surviving person in Ford's theater that night on I've Got A Secret in 1956. You already know about that, right? A Lincoln assassination witness on TV! Mind blowing, really.

Who was the guest?

Samuel J. Seymour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_iq5yzJ-Dk

DKEast · 04-18-2015, 07:25 PM

(04-18-2015 06:59 PM)ReignetteC Wrote:
(04-18-2015 06:23 PM)DKEast Wrote:
(02-11-2015 09:17 PM)Pamela Wrote:
(02-11-2015 04:34 PM)L Verge Wrote: This appears to be another version of the same story. Thank you.
I gave it a shot looking for the article but was dumbfounded to see the last surviving person in Ford's theater that night on I've Got A Secret in 1956. You already know about that, right? A Lincoln assassination witness on TV! Mind blowing, really.

Who was the guest?

Samuel J. Seymour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_iq5yzJ-Dk

Thanks - amazing!

L Verge · 04-19-2015, 01:45 PM

What's amazing is that I remember seeing him on the show! I'm tired of these little blasts from the past reminding me that I'm growing old. On Friday, a college friend that I had not seen nor heard from in over fifty years visited Surratt House.

L Verge · 05-27-2015, 11:04 AM

I'm striking out in trying to respond to a phone call that I received this morning from a gentleman who will be giving a talk on the assassination next week. It is his first such talk, and he is including the Ring of Conspirators lithograph in his presentation with a lead-in of "which conspirator is missing."

That answer is easy, but his next question to me was "why?" That's been a question for many of us over the years, and I'm not sure that we will ever have a definite answer. However, this gentleman's next question also blind-sided me. Who produced that lithograph and when?

I have been cherchezing that topic for nearly an hour and have come up with nada. Anyone out there with an answer?

Susan Higginbotham · 05-27-2015, 11:27 AM

(05-27-2015 11:04 AM)L Verge Wrote: I'm striking out in trying to respond to a phone call that I received this morning from a gentleman who will be giving a talk on the assassination next week. It is his first such talk, and he is including the Ring of Conspirators lithograph in his presentation with a lead-in of "which conspirator is missing."

That answer is easy, but his next question to me was "why?" That's been a question for many of us over the years, and I'm not sure that we will ever have a definite answer. However, this gentleman's next question also blind-sided me. Who produced that lithograph and when?

I have been cherchezing that topic for nearly an hour and have come up with nada. Anyone out there with an answer?

The one that's missing Dr. Mudd? If so, according to Swanson and Weinberg, it first appeared as the frontispiece on Benn Pittman's published trial transcript. There's an engraver's name printed on the frontispiece, but I can't read it.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov//service/lawlib/la...00hero.pdf

L Verge · 05-27-2015, 01:02 PM

(05-27-2015 11:27 AM)Susan Higginbotham Wrote:
(05-27-2015 11:04 AM)L Verge Wrote: I'm striking out in trying to respond to a phone call that I received this morning from a gentleman who will be giving a talk on the assassination next week. It is his first such talk, and he is including the Ring of Conspirators lithograph in his presentation with a lead-in of "which conspirator is missing."

That answer is easy, but his next question to me was "why?" That's been a question for many of us over the years, and I'm not sure that we will ever have a definite answer. However, this gentleman's next question also blind-sided me. Who produced that lithograph and when?

I have been cherchezing that topic for nearly an hour and have come up with nada. Anyone out there with an answer?

The one that's missing Dr. Mudd? If so, according to Swanson and Weinberg, it first appeared as the frontispiece on Benn Pittman's published trial transcript. There's an engraver's name printed on the frontispiece, but I can't read it.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov//service/lawlib/la...00hero.pdf

Thank you so much. I had started with the LOC, but must have overlooked it. The Van Doren Stern edition of Pitman is sitting right beside my desk, and when I opened it, I was able to read the engraver's name as A.B. Ritchie. Under that is the publishing company, so Mr. Ritchie likely worked for the publisher.

Anyone have any guesses as to why Dr. Mudd was not included in the Ring of Conspirators?

Dave Taylor · 05-27-2015, 04:34 PM

(05-27-2015 01:02 PM)L Verge Wrote: Anyone have any guesses as to why Dr. Mudd was not included in the Ring of Conspirators?

Benn Pitman initially made the decision, on his own, not to include Dr. Mudd in the Ring of Conspirators, "partly, perhaps mainly from consideration to his family." Later the publishers "half demand" that Dr. Mudd's likeness be included. Pitman wrote to Ewing, Mudd's attorney, and Dr. George Mudd for a photograph of Mudd to use but apparently never received one from them. You can read his full letter to Ewing about it here: https://archive.org/stream/assassination...1/mode/2up

L Verge · 05-27-2015, 05:54 PM

(05-27-2015 04:34 PM)Dave Taylor Wrote:
(05-27-2015 01:02 PM)L Verge Wrote: Anyone have any guesses as to why Dr. Mudd was not included in the Ring of Conspirators?

Benn Pitman initially made the decision, on his own, not to include Dr. Mudd in the Ring of Conspirators, "partly, perhaps mainly from consideration to his family." Later the publishers "half demand" that Dr. Mudd's likeness be included. Pitman wrote to Ewing, Mudd's attorney, and Dr. George Mudd for a photograph of Mudd to use but apparently never received one from them. You can read his full letter to Ewing about it here: https://archive.org/stream/assassination...1/mode/2up

Boy, money does talk. Pitman either considered Mrs. Surratt guilty(at least enough to include her in the center) without respect to her family.