Most valuable missing assassination relic
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04-27-2014, 08:23 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-27-2014 08:30 AM by BettyO.)
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RE: Most valuable missing assassination relic
I'm getting in a little late on this thread but I would LOVE to see Powell's hat, overcoat and clothing. According to reports about 1903, these items still existed and were being held in one of the government offices. I've always wondered if they were "buried" somewhere in the Union Station/Greenbelt collections.....and what ever happened to the rest of Powell's personal effects which were in his pockets when captured? His wallet, the pistol cartridges, handkerchiefs, etc.....what happened to those things, I wonder? His comb and toothbrush are at Fords.....
We know that his Bible, which was given him in prison went to Dr Gillette to forward to his parents. They never received it. "The Past is a foreign country...they do things differently there" - L. P. Hartley |
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04-27-2014, 02:29 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-27-2014 02:32 PM by DanielC.)
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RE: Most valuable missing assassination relic
(04-27-2014 08:23 AM)BettyO Wrote: I'm getting in a little late on this thread but I would LOVE to see Powell's hat, overcoat and clothing. According to reports about 1903, these items still existed and were being held in one of the government offices. I've always wondered if they were "buried" somewhere in the Union Station/Greenbelt collections.....and what ever happened to the rest of Powell's personal effects which were in his pockets when captured? His wallet, the pistol cartridges, handkerchiefs, etc.....what happened to those things, I wonder? His comb and toothbrush are at Fords..... I'm with you Betty. Powell's clothing would be neat. I would also like to see Old George's hat. Now that would be a find! |
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05-02-2014, 09:01 AM
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I believe I red somewhere that the government had burned some of the clothing that was from the war department as it had become moth infested. These could be the Powell clothing. I also wonder about Powell's (Booth's) boots. They were quite a nice pair and I wonder if they walked off somewhere.
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05-02-2014, 01:56 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-02-2014 01:58 PM by BettyO.)
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RE: Most valuable missing assassination relic
Quote:I believe I red somewhere that the government had burned some of the clothing that was from the war department as it had become moth infested. I had read that as well, Jim. I hope it isn't so, but as Powell's suit was supposedly cashmere, there is a good chance that it was considered a delectable snack by moths. However, his blood-stained linen shirt wouldn't have been moth eaten; nor his linen handkerchiefs or knit under drawers. Hopefully his beaver/felt slouch hat may have been spared. I'm thinking that his wallet must be somewhere along with the compass he had and the box of pistol cartridges. I also wonder where those hair clippings must have gone when the boys had their hair cut in prison. Were these clippings swooped up as "souvenirs?" Or where they simply swept away? As avid as folk were to chip off pieces of the gallows or acquire pieces of the hanging rope, I could see these pieces of hair going the same route.... "The Past is a foreign country...they do things differently there" - L. P. Hartley |
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05-02-2014, 02:12 PM
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RE: Most valuable missing assassination relic
Betty and everyone
I know these aren't prime relics, but I'd love to know what happened to the screws larcenous Mose Sanford removed from the temporary coffin they used to transport President Lincoln from Petersen's to the Executive Mansion. I also wonder what became of the strips of shirt Fred Petersen gave to his buddy William Ferguson on Saturday morning. In a later interview, Ferguson said he couldn't remember what he did with them. Remember Ned Emerson's son found his trunk in the attic 60 years after the assassination, with a Ford's program, Ermerson's view of the assassination and some Booth pix inside. I wonder how many people carefully secreted away relics and their survivors didn't realize what they were and just tossed them. |
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06-11-2014, 01:23 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-11-2014 01:28 PM by ReignetteC.)
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RE: Most valuable missing assassination relic
(04-16-2014 09:32 AM)L Verge Wrote: Are all of these pieces on view to the public in Chicago? I hope they are and are appreciated there because I frankly think they should be at the Petersen House. Laurie, I saw the display a couple of years ago and it was nicely done. RC (04-16-2014 11:57 AM)Rsmyth Wrote: Laurie, unfortunately there is about as much chance of that happening as Ford's getting the rocker back or Egypt the Rosetta stone etc. Hi, Rich, Did the president's undertaker, Frank Sands, keep a record of the embalming and preparation (dressing) of the president for burial? Thanks, RC |
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06-12-2014, 06:53 AM
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Hi RC,
I do not believe I have ever seen anything from Sands on the embalming. Maybe someone else has run across something. |
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07-08-2014, 05:03 AM
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RE: Most valuable missing assassination relic
(04-25-2014 01:07 PM)L Verge Wrote: Several days ago, I was contacted by the Chief of the Division of Medicine and Science at the Museum of American History (Smithsonian Institution) wanting information on the pair of field glasses that we have on display at Surratt House. Dave Taylor mentioned the real missing glasses in a previous post on this thread, and of course we know that Mrs. Surratt got into a lot of trouble by bringing those glasses to John Lloyd in the late-afternoon of April 14. Thank you to Kieran McAuliffe for sending the link to this article. |
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07-08-2014, 05:27 AM
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RE: Most valuable missing assassination relic
Fascinating article AND artifact, Roger - Thanks!
From Lloyd's testimony at the 1867 Surratt Trial and the markings on the knob of this piece, it stands to good chance that these may be the glasses....very exciting! "The Past is a foreign country...they do things differently there" - L. P. Hartley |
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07-08-2014, 08:46 AM
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RE: Most valuable missing assassination relic
The author of that article is the same one who spoke with me several months ago and also came to visit Surratt House in order to see the "supposedly identical" pair of field glasses that we have on display in our Visitors' Center. Both Ms. Warner and I agree that it is unlikely that the REAL glasses will ever show up - with proper provenance.
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07-08-2014, 02:05 PM
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RE: Most valuable missing assassination relic
Didn't Lucinda Holloway state she scratched "JWB" into them?
"There are few subjects that ignite more casual, uninformed bigotry and condescension from elites in this nation more than Dixie - Jonah Goldberg" |
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07-08-2014, 02:08 PM
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Joe, yes. She wrote, "I took a pin and marked J.W.B. under the buckle on the strap."
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07-20-2014, 08:59 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-20-2014 09:04 AM by Ed Steers.)
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RE: Most valuable missing assassination relic
(03-20-2014 07:18 AM)Dave Taylor Wrote: I believe one of the most interesting missing assassination relics would be the field glasses that Mrs. Surratt delivered to Lloyd on Booth's behalf. Lloyd's testimony regarding this interaction was one of the nails in Mrs. Surratt's coffin and Det. Baker made a return trip to the Garrett farm to retrieve these binoculars. It may not be as valuable in the monetary sense like Corbett's pistol would be, but it is still something I would very much like to see. (03-20-2014 07:18 AM)Dave Taylor Wrote: I believe one of the most interesting missing assassination relics would be the field glasses that Mrs. Surratt delivered to Lloyd on Booth's behalf. Lloyd's testimony regarding this interaction was one of the nails in Mrs. Surratt's coffin and Det. Baker made a return trip to the Garrett farm to retrieve these binoculars. It may not be as valuable in the monetary sense like Corbett's pistol would be, but it is still something I would very much like to see. I post a photograph of the clock taken on a visit to the Resource Center (Thanks to Gloria Swift for getting the clock out). |
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07-20-2014, 09:31 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-20-2014 09:32 AM by BettyO.)
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Wow! Thanks, Ed.....
I've got to get back up to the Vault sometime and hopefully, dig around.... That needs to be on display at Ford's. Wonder why it isn't? "The Past is a foreign country...they do things differently there" - L. P. Hartley |
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07-20-2014, 09:51 AM
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RE: Most valuable missing assassination relic
That is one ornate clock. Thanks Ed!
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