New Online Map of Lincoln Sculptures

[STS Lincolnite]

Hello Friends!

Just wanted to take a minute to alert you to an online map that fellow Lincoln Discussion Symposium member Dave Wiegers and I have created.

In part, what we are calling “The Lincoln Sculptures Project,” involves a map created with Google maps that illustrates the locations of over 500 Lincoln sculptures in the United States and around the world. We have been talking about this and working on it (in starts and stops) for several years now. We have very fundamental goals. Those goals: to have an easily accessible map with the sculpture locations, to provide some basic information about each sculpture, and to produce something relatively easy to manage and operate behind the scenes.

This map is not a finished product. Nor will it ever be. Our intention is to continue to update it regularly. That being said, we do feel like we have gotten to a point where we are ready to share it with the public.

When you access the map, you will see on the left-hand side, a box with an overview description. The bulk of the page is a world map with our custom designed icon (a pushpin with a little Lincoln hat on it ) that indicates the location of the various Lincoln sculptures. Using the available controls, you can also zoom in and out of the map. By clicking on an individual icon, you can call up photos (if we have them) as well as some information about each sculpture.

Another item you will notice is that there is a naming convention that Dave has developed (incorporating the suggestions of several people) for each sculpture. The naming convention for sculptures was developed to serve the same general purpose as did the Ostendorf numbering system with Lincoln photographs - as well as provide a good method of cataloging and searching for the sculptures when used in other media formats and in other places.

The map can be accessed by clicking on this link (or by copying it into your web browser and going from there):

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1...sp=sharing

Please check out the map and let us know what you think. Also, let us know if there is a sculpture we may have missed so we can consider it for inclusion on the map as we do updates. We would love to hear your feedback! We are always looking to make the map better. You can of course leave comments here, or you can email us at lincolnsculpturesproject@gmail.com
Next, go back to the map again, and again, and again! We are hoping that by more and more views, it will start to show up when people do term searches in Google and other search engines.

We know that there are limitations with using Google maps. There are simply some things that this platform does not allow us to do (or that it does strangely). Some of those things we would have liked for it to have done or done differently. But when considering different platforms, this checked the most boxes for what we wanted to do along with a price point that worked best.

On May 14, 2022, in Springfield, IL, Dave and I did our first joint presentation titled “Finding Lincoln in Sculpture.” It combined "finding Lincoln" with a biography through sculpture and a literal approach by presenting an overview of the map we created.

Anyway, thanks so much in advance and we hope you may find some value and enjoyment in exploring the map!


Scott and Dave

[Eva Elisabeth]

That's a cool thing, Scott - I wish I had had that a few yrs ago when I was able to travel more.

[Gene C]

Nice work guys
Interesting to me to see how many of the locations now seem to no longer have their Lincoln statues....like Australia, Portland and Ashland Oregon, and other locations.

[RJNorton]

Several years ago we had a discussion of Lincoln statues around the world. It was mentioned that Guatemala had one, but as I recall, no one could find it. So I will ask...is there a Lincoln statue in Guatemala? I can see that Guatemala is not mentioned as a Lincoln sculpture site on Scott and Dave's map.

[STS Lincolnite]

(05-18-2022 08:55 AM)RJNorton Wrote:  Several years ago we had a discussion of Lincoln statues around the world. It was mentioned that Guatemala had one, but as I recall, no one could find it. So I will ask...is there a Lincoln statue in Guatemala? I can see that Guatemala is not mentioned as a Lincoln sculpture site on Scott and Dave's map.

Roger,

We don't have and couldn't find any information about a Lincoln sculpture in Guatemala. The same goes for Canada (we don't have actual info on one - photo, documentation, etc.), and multiple in Mexico (we have info on one but no photo, documentation, etc. on others). These are ones that you mentioned in the list you had started to accumulate and mentioned in a previous thread. That of course doesn't mean they don't exist. We just have been unable to adequately verify.

If anyone has info on these or other sculptures not in our map please let us know!! There are several more in London that we will be adding in the near future as well as a couple more in California.

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(05-18-2022 08:38 AM)Gene C Wrote:  Nice work guys
Interesting to me to see how many of the locations now seem to no longer have their Lincoln statues....like Australia, Portland and Ashland Oregon, and other locations.

Thanks Gene!!

You are right. Some of the stories of sculptures that are no longer in their original place are pretty interesting. Some have been moved to new locations (we are working on updating comments to reflect new locations and old locations), some have been taken down, some are in rotating exhibits (both indoor and outdoor) so not always on display, some have been stolen. Some have apparently just disappeared. We continue to search for more info about all of these.

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(05-18-2022 01:43 AM)Eva Elisabeth Wrote:  That's a cool thing, Scott - I wish I had had that a few yrs ago when I was able to travel more.

Thanks Eva!!

One of the reasons that we created the map was just what you said. Dave would often get requests from people traveling to a given area and were wondering if there was some sort of Lincoln sculpture in the area they were going to that may be interesting to visit. We thought this may be helpful to people in that way and hopefully also being able to see sculptures they may never be able to get to. We are continuing to work on getting more photos for sculptures that we don't currently have. Some we actually have but we just haven't updated the file yet. Our first goal was just getting as many locations onto the map as we could.

And, hopefully, you will be able to do some more travel again in the future and will have this as one resource. Also, selfishly, I would love to see you again and catch back up in person!

[Eva Elisabeth]

Thank you, Scott! I would love so, too! And I think the map is inspiring!

[Lincolnphotog]

I wanted to jump in after a long absence and say a couple of things. Regarding a Lincoln statue in Canada, I have never been able to find one. I have seen reports of people reporting seeing one but it seems that like a lot of people see a statue that has a beard and assume it's Lincoln. I don't think there is a Lincoln statue in Canada though I would not be surprised that a bust could be found in a museum somewhere.
In regards to Guatemala. I have read that there is a statue or large bust of Lincoln in Guatemala City and I even show in my database that it is supposedly in Union Plaza but I have not been able to conform this so it is not on our map.
This past week, I was able to find a large public Lincoln bust in Guadalajara, Mexico and it is now on the map. I also added a wonderful bust in London, England which I will see in July/August along with the ones in Edinburgh, Durham, Bath, London and Hingham, England.
As Scott mentioned in an earlier post, we'll be adding several more from California yet this summer. Waiting on some information from the Nixon Boyhood Home and Chaman University.

Scott and I hope you enjoy the map and please let us know if you see something missing or wrong. It is a work in process!!

[David Lockmiller]

(01-17-2021 01:19 PM)RJNorton Wrote:  Thanks to David Lockmiller for sending these images. David writes, "The photos were taken by me on December 30, 2020, after restoration from 'Dakota 38' damages to Lincoln statue in front of SF City Hall."

Lincolnphotog wrote yesterday: "As Scott mentioned in an earlier post, we'll be adding several more from California yet this summer."

I noticed on the map that the Lincoln statue in front of San Francisco City Hall was not yet on the map.

This must be one of the finest Lincoln statues in the country and the world.

[LincolnMan]

A couple of my photographs were used by Dave in the Project! It is truly an amazing work and one that will keep on growing. Looking forward to seeing how it will expand it the future.

[STS Lincolnite]

(05-30-2022 06:18 PM)David Lockmiller Wrote:  I noticed on the map that the Lincoln statue in front of San Francisco City Hall was not yet on the map.

This must be one of the finest Lincoln statues in the country and the world.

Hmmm....that particular statue is in fact on the map. It is DW-0020-USA-CA. I just double checked and it is there....

Please let me know if you are not finding it and maybe I can help...

[David Lockmiller]

(05-31-2022 09:07 AM)STS Lincolnite Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 06:18 PM)David Lockmiller Wrote:  I noticed on the map that the Lincoln statue in front of San Francisco City Hall was not yet on the map.

This must be one of the finest Lincoln statues in the country and the world.

Hmmm....that particular statue is in fact on the map. It is DW-0020-USA-CA. I just double checked and it is there....

Please let me know if you are not finding it and maybe I can help...

I apologize. I looked on the map yesterday and found only two statues in Northern California. Now, today, there are two in San Francisco that were not there when I looked yesterday.

[Eva Elisabeth]

It would be cool to have such a map for any Lincoln-sights...(just the marker in the Google map and a link - would be a cool public project)