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Today’s Republicans Are Like Lincoln in Only One Way
02-14-2020, 08:33 AM
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Today’s Republicans Are Like Lincoln in Only One Way
The New York Times today published an opinion piece by historian Megan Kate Nelson titled "Today’s Republicans Are Like Lincoln in Only One Way." The opinion description provided by the author is: "They share a determination to undermine the land rights of Native peoples."

The following is an extended excerpt from the opinion:

The Homestead Act provided 160 acres of public land for every loyal citizen of the Union. The Pacific Railway Act approved federal support for a transcontinental railroad. Two other acts, one setting aside public lands for agricultural colleges and the other creating the Department of Agriculture, were rooted in Republican beliefs about the centrality of free-labor farming in the future of the West — and of the nation.

Before the West could be settled with white farmers, however, the federal government had to remove a major obstacle: Native peoples. But indigenous groups had no intention of handing over their homelands to be sold or distributed to white Americans.

So to force Native submission, the Lincoln administration developed a two-pronged approach.

The Pacific Railway Act stipulated that where the government had already negotiated treaties granting lands to Native groups, it would extinguish those titles.

Where there was no treaty in place, the Union War Department would declare war on Native communities and force their surrender. Then they would be removed to reservations, where they could be monitored by Union troops, taught “the arts of civilization” and converted to Christianity.

In the New Mexico Territory, James Henry Carleton, a Union brigadier general, put this policy into action in the fall of 1862. He sent troops to fight Chiricahua Apaches in the south and ordered his favorite officer, Colonel “Kit” Carson, to make hard war first upon Mescalero Apaches, and then Navajos in the north.

Carleton intensified these campaigns the next year because in the summer of 1863, gold had been discovered in the mountains of central Arizona Territory. Once the Union Army removed Apaches and Navajos from their homelands — the plan went — miners would lay claim to the Arizona diggings. Farmers would follow, planting the fields that would feed them. Lincoln’s War Department and General Land Office supported these campaigns.

“The immense mineral resources of some of those Territories ought to be developed as rapidly as possible,” the president wrote in his annual address to Congress in 1862. “It is worthy of your serious consideration whether some extraordinary measures to promote that end cannot be adopted.”

In January 1864, Lincoln signed a measure creating a reservation for Navajos and Mescalero Apaches at Bosque Redondo in central New Mexico. Suffering from Carleton’s mismanagement and a series of environmental disasters, the reservation was a calamity from the start.

The more than 8,000 Navajos and Mescalero Apaches incarcerated there endured bad water, exposure to the elements, spoiled rations and rampant disease. They called the reservation “Hwéeldi” — Land of Suffering.

Reports of these conditions sparked multiple congressional investigations, and by 1864, Lincoln was calling for new policies that would “provide for the welfare of the Indian.” But at the same time, he was advocating to render the western territories “secure for the advancing settler.”

"So very difficult a matter is it to trace and find out the truth of anything by history." -- Plutarch
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02-14-2020, 12:33 PM (This post was last modified: 02-14-2020 05:07 PM by Gene C.)
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This from the web site of "Historian" Megan Kate Nelson
"Hi there! I’m Megan Kate Nelson, a writer, historian, road cyclist, and cocktail enthusiast with more than 34,000 images on my phone – most of them of my two cats"
"I also have a new book coming out with Scribner in February 2020: The Three-Cornered War: The Union, the Confederacy, and Native Peoples in the Fight for the West."
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She starts out her article with this being the first sentence,
"Last year, the House minority leader, Kevin McCarthy, defended a series of President Trump’s racist tweets"

So much for an objective opinion.
(of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.
"historians try to be objective and impartial"

- from Lexico.com

And this comment from Fido
What did you expect from someone who has "more than 34,000 images on my phone, most of them of my two cats"

I'll spare you all my cat jokes, but here is a short documentary about to much exposure to cats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcQlzNNRK1o

So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in?
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02-14-2020, 01:46 PM (This post was last modified: 02-14-2020 06:00 PM by David Lockmiller.)
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RE: Today’s Republicans Are Like Lincoln in Only One Way
The New York Times seems to be either attempting to revise American history with the 1619 Project on slavery and now this on President Lincoln's treatment of American Indians, or the publication management is trying to artificially increase readership by means of creating historical controversy. I think that the NYTimes should give up on its "radical American historians" approach to more profits.

"So very difficult a matter is it to trace and find out the truth of anything by history." -- Plutarch
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02-16-2020, 04:32 AM
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The hypocrisy of neo progressives.
While they stand with the Indian struggle against the white colonial advancement, they would not raise a finger when mass Muslim immigration is actually reanacting Western colonization in Europe... Instead they will encourage it.
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02-16-2020, 08:11 AM
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Here is a definition of Neo-Progressive.

Definitions
The NeoProgressives

The Neopro approach is not that much different than the old progressive method, where it comes to the goals that need to be achieved. It is shares similar concerns and policy goals concerning the environment, human rights, animal protection and gender equality, among many others, yet the path to achieve those goals is completely different.

The Neopro philosophy takes a more entrepreneurial and strategic approach to achieving these goals. It is a philosophy that provides a better path to solving cultural and political problems. Neoprogressivism understands that issues evolve and that the approach to finding lasting solutions needs to be continuously revamped and improved, just as successful businesses adapt to changing market conditions. Consequently, the people most qualified to lead this movement are people with entrepreneurial and business backgrounds. Real-world experience in dealing with the economic markets and the marketplace of ideas combined with the traditional progressive motivation to work toward the greater good are the hallmarks of Neopro leadership.
( from - http://theneopro.com/about/ )

Looks to me to be written by someone who considers themselves to be Neo-Progressive. The difficulty with many of these types of philosophies, they see themselves as part of the "qualified few", they are elitist. A better spelling for it would be ME-litist

So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in?
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02-16-2020, 08:34 AM
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RE: Today’s Republicans Are Like Lincoln in Only One Way
(02-16-2020 04:32 AM)Mylye2222 Wrote:  The hypocrisy of neo progressives.
While they stand with the Indian struggle against the white colonial advancement, they would not raise a finger when mass Muslim immigration is actually reanacting Western colonization in Europe... Instead they will encourage it.

Good point.

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