Judging historical people on today's social standards. . .

[Mylye2222]

(12-03-2019 03:28 PM)L Verge Wrote:  [quote='Mylye2222' pid='79475' dateline='1575396200']
[quote='Dennis Urban' pid='79474' dateline='1575384820']
[quote='LincolnMan' pid='79467' dateline='1575313788']
[quote='Mylye2222' pid='79465' dateline='1575311172']


I am appreciating your term "repentance culture." In my region of the U.S. (twelve miles from the U.S. Capitol building), the epitaph "white guilt" is what is most frequently thrown at us - or at least insinuated. My head will be severed from my neck for this comment, but I feel neither repentant nor guilty for the society that existed over 100 years before I was born. And yes, my ancestors held slaves...

Hi back. I've heard about "white guilt" term too. We also use it there. Translation "culpabilité blanche" * So let's go to the gallows together, as I neither feel guilty for past French actions, although it's necessary to acknowledge history's dark side, every nation has its own, and not only the white populated ones. Unfortunately, PC does not require any guilt for slavery to the Arabs for instance.... And unlike white slavery, the latter is still continuing, as we can see in Lybia or with the Iraq Yazidis women.

[LincolnMan]

(12-03-2019 06:54 PM)Mylye2222 Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 03:28 PM)L Verge Wrote:  [quote='Mylye2222' pid='79475' dateline='1575396200']
[quote='Dennis Urban' pid='79474' dateline='1575384820']
[quote='LincolnMan' pid='79467' dateline='1575313788']
[quote='Mylye2222' pid='79465' dateline='1575311172']


I am appreciating your term "repentance culture." In my region of the U.S. (twelve miles from the U.S. Capitol building), the epitaph "white guilt" is what is most frequently thrown at us - or at least insinuated. My head will be severed from my neck for this comment, but I feel neither repentant nor guilty for the society that existed over 100 years before I was born. And yes, my ancestors held slaves...

Hi back. I've heard about "white guilt" term too. We also use it there. Translation "culpabilité blanche" * So let's go to the gallows together, as I neither feel guilty for past French actions, although it's necessary to acknowledge history's dark side, every nation has its own, and not only the white populated ones. Unfortunately, PC does not require any guilt for slavery to the Arabs for instance.... And unlike white slavery, the latter is still continuing, as we can see in Lybia or with the Iraq Yazidis women.

Right on!

[AussieMick]

The sad part of this politically correct revisionism is that history is distorted for political reasons. White Anglo-Saxon atrocities are publicised and often exaggerated.

There's no doubt horrible acts occurred in the past. But History cannot be subjected to political nit-picking and lies in order to show that 'we are good' and 'you are bad'.

In Australia we have whats known as the 'Black Arm Band' industry. People write books and make films which are supposedly based on research. The aim is to 'prove' that Aboriginals were living happily and prosperously before Europeans ( = English capitalists) "invaded" and spread diseases and massacred 'thousands'. The strange thing is that many of these books and research comes from people who claim to have Aboriginal heritage ... but have as much Aboriginal appearance as I have.

[RJNorton]

(12-04-2019 10:01 PM)AussieMick Wrote:  that history is distorted for political reasons.

I was in college so long ago I do not remember many quotes from my professors. But I do recall one history professor who asked the class, "What is the difference between a "terrorist" and a "freedom fighter?" The class was silent; no hands went up. The professor then replied by saying, "The difference simply relates to which side you are on."

[Mylye2222]

(12-04-2019 10:01 PM)AussieMick Wrote:  The sad part of this politically correct revisionism is that history is distorted for political reasons. White Anglo-Saxon atrocities are publicised and often exaggerated.

There's no doubt horrible acts occurred in the past. But History cannot be subjected to political nit-picking and lies in order to show that 'we are good' and 'you are bad'.

In Australia we have whats known as the 'Black Arm Band' industry. People write books and make films which are supposedly based on research. The aim is to 'prove' that Aboriginals were living happily and prosperously before Europeans ( = English capitalists) "invaded" and spread diseases and massacred 'thousands'. The strange thing is that many of these books and research comes from people who claim to have Aboriginal heritage ... but have as much Aboriginal appearance as I have.

Therefore those books might come from white Australians ridden by white guilt. White people are taught since 40 years to hate themselves to the core. Unfortunately it has the reverse effects than sought. Instead of sanely aknowledge their past on a comprehensive basis, it increases racial prejudice.