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07-12-2022, 08:33 AM
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Stephen B. Oates?

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07-12-2022, 08:44 AM
Post: #3947
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The man sort of looks familiar - like I may have seen a photo/video of him before. But this photo was taken when I was an infant, so this man would've been much older if I saw him. He kind of resembles Ed Steers without his glasses, but I wouldn't make a wager on that guess.
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07-12-2022, 10:23 AM
Post: #3948
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(07-12-2022 08:44 AM)Steve Wrote:  He kind of resembles Ed Steers without his glasses, but I wouldn't make a wager on that guess.

You should have made the wager - it is indeed Ed Steers! Good job, Steve.
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07-15-2022, 06:29 AM (This post was last modified: 07-15-2022 07:17 AM by AussieMick.)
Post: #3949
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How is The African Queen connected to President Lincoln?

Its a man.

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07-15-2022, 07:32 AM
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Does it have anything to do with Abraham Lincoln's invention?
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07-15-2022, 07:36 AM (This post was last modified: 07-15-2022 08:13 AM by AussieMick.)
Post: #3951
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No, sorry Roger. The only nautical connection is to David Farragut who was born more than 100 years before this man. You can forget the navy, rivers, and sea.

This man's connection to President Lincoln is through work he did for CBS

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07-15-2022, 09:32 AM
Post: #3952
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John Houston, who directed the movie The African Queen, attended the Abraham Lincoln High School in Los Angeles

So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in?
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07-15-2022, 07:03 PM (This post was last modified: 07-15-2022 07:48 PM by AussieMick.)
Post: #3953
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Very good connection, Gene ... but not the one I'm after. Good job for me that I included the CBS clue (ruling out Houston, I suggest).

But , yes, this man's involvement in The African Queen was non-acting.

He wrote a book that sold about 600 copies before being pulped/remaindered.

The CBS clue connected to Lincoln? 1950's


the clue "He wrote a book that sold about 600 copies before being pulped/remaindered." ?

The book concerned cotton farmers.

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07-15-2022, 08:37 PM (This post was last modified: 07-15-2022 09:03 PM by AussieMick.)
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Ok, back to cbs and this man's involvement. Does Joanne Woodward help?

He wrote a novel based upon a traumatic event in his own life. It was awarded a literary prize after his death.

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07-16-2022, 12:11 AM (This post was last modified: 07-16-2022 12:13 AM by AussieMick.)
Post: #3955
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Another clue ...

   

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07-16-2022, 01:05 AM (This post was last modified: 07-16-2022 01:17 AM by Steve.)
Post: #3956
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James Agee, the screenwriter of The African Queen co-wrote a book on poor Alabama farmers called, pretentiously, Let Us Now Praise Famous Men which is where that photo comes from.
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07-16-2022, 01:13 AM (This post was last modified: 07-16-2022 01:50 AM by AussieMick.)
Post: #3957
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Well done, Steve. Yes that photo is on most (all?) editions of Let Us Now Praise Famous Men. James Agee is the man.

Pretentious? Maybe. But then he had lots to be pretentious about.

The connection to Mr. Lincoln is through a series on CBS early in 1950's. Joanne Woodward played Anne Routledge. Stanley Kubrick was also involved ...
https://rowman.com/ISBN/9780810851757/Ja...-1952-1953

Yes, its a weird title ... not exactly likely to have people queuing to buy the book. When I chose it for my Book Club (90% women) , their faces were aghast. But he had his reasons. ... His writing is not always easy, in the sense that it makes the reader (and author) uncomfortable and challenges constantly.

The title comes from https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Ecc...Chapter-1/ The 'old' Bible ... but current bibles omit it.

"The apocrypha is a selection of books which were published in the original 1611 King James Bible. These apocryphal books were positioned between the Old and New Testament (it also contained maps and geneologies). The apocrypha was a part of the KJV for 274 years until being removed in 1885 A.D. ....."

Another version of the book is titled Cotton Tenants

for more on Agee's book :-
https://keypennews.org/stories/remembere...s-men,3861

Knoxville is where Agee (and David Farragut) was born. It is the scene for his novel "A Death In The Family". Yes, another 'great' title (not). Can you imagine his publishers begging him to change it??? But its a wonderful piece of writing.

I could write lots more ... about Walker Evans and his photographs associated with the book (and others ). About Agee's journalism and his script writing and fascination with Charles Chaplin.

And then there's the link to spying through Agee's friend Chambers...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whittaker_Chambers

But that's enough. Except for this for classical music lovers ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTR3oCCek74

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07-16-2022, 01:14 AM (This post was last modified: 07-16-2022 01:17 AM by Steve.)
Post: #3958
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Agee wrote a documentary on Lincoln which aired on CBS in 1955 called Mr Lincoln and the Civil War.
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07-16-2022, 03:29 AM
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Yes, well done Steve. I think your post must have arrived just a nano second after mine above.
https://rowman.com/ISBN/9780810851757/Ja...-1952-1953

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07-16-2022, 12:06 PM
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(07-16-2022 01:13 AM)AussieMick Wrote:  Well done, Steve. Yes that photo is on most (all?) editions of Let Us Now Praise Famous Men. James Agee is the man.

Pretentious? Maybe. But then he had lots to be pretentious about.

The connection to Mr. Lincoln is through a series on CBS early in 1950's. Joanne Woodward played Anne Rutledge. Stanley Kubrick was also involved ...
https://rowman.com/ISBN/9780810851757/Ja...-1952-1953

Joanne Woodward met Paul Newman on the set of the stage comedy Picnic in the early 1950s, and the two married on January 29, 1958, after his divorce from his first wife Jacqueline Witte was finalized. Only two months after their wedding, Woodward won her first Academy Award. Newman got his first nomination later that year,1958, for Cat On a Hot Tin Roof. Paul Neman won his first Oscar in 1986, for The Color of Money.

Paul Newman should have won the Oscar for his role in The Hustler (1961), and not The Color of Money, in my opinion. And, Cat On a Hot Tin Roof, with Elizabeth Taylor and Paul Newman as the stars, is one of the finest movies ever made. I think Paul Newman and Elizabeth Taylor may be the two finest male and female actors ever. Robert Redford is a close second as a male actor. I still like the term actress although the term has now fallen out of favor.

I would like to see the movie about Lincoln in which Joanne Woodward played the role of Anne Rutledge. It would be interesting to see how she played the role and how the script of the actual romance is written (hopefully, with no literary license).

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