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Gene C · (This post was last modified: 10-25-2019 07:23 AM by Gene C.)

What a bold look.

This is what one web site has to say about her
"First, xxxxxx…she was the oldest child of xxxxx xxxxxxxxx, and man, was she a piece of work. She had a throw pillow that was embroidered with “If you can’t say something nice, then sit next to me.” I mean, look at this haughty broad. You just know she’d rip you to shreds. Her forked tongue often got her in trouble and she was embroiled in multiple scandals throughout her life, but she didn’t care. xxxxxx lived without restrictions. And she was hot."

She reminds me of a song. (make sure the volumes not to high)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIfvwwPSHCI

RJNorton · 10-25-2019, 07:23 AM

(10-25-2019 07:16 AM)Gene C Wrote: What a bold look.

Gene, if you are asking if she had an active life, the answer is yes. She even has her own listing in Wikipedia. As far as I know, she was not involved in any scandals.

L Verge · 10-25-2019, 09:41 AM

Gene obviously knows who the lady is, but didn't say her name. His description, however, pinpoints Alice Roosevelt Longworth -- daughter or Teddy Roosevelt, and a woman I would love to meet in the hereafter. I think we have "kindred tongues..."

RJNorton · 10-25-2019, 09:52 AM

Nope, not her, Laurie.

Hint #1: Her father knew Abraham Lincoln.

L Verge · 10-25-2019, 10:09 AM

I am actually shocked at that photo if the lady had a father who knew Lincoln. Her attire is most inappropriate , even for the 1920s (which appears to be the era in which she posed). IMO, that photo -- taken anytime between 1850 and 1930 -- is a scandal in and of itself!

Can I just sneak in a cute joke related to Alice Roosevelt's husband, Nicholas Longworth? He and Alice didn't get along too well after he went against her father in the Republican Party in 1912, but he was a very good Speaker of the House as well as someone who was nice to be around. There's a joke about him one day at the U.S. Capitol:

One particular famous retort is attributed to Longworth. One day, while he was lounging in a chair at the Capitol, another member of the House ran his hand over Longworth's bald pate and commented, "Nice and smooth. Feels just like my wife's bottom." Longworth felt his own head and returned an answer: "Yes, so it does."

Journalist Frank R. Kent of The Baltimore Sun wrote of him:

"Without any revision of the rules he completely recovered the power of the speakership and was the undisputed leader of the House with as autocratic control as either Reed or Cannon. It is true he exercised this power with infinitely more tact and grace and gumption and without that touch of offensive arrogance that characterized former House Czars. But he was just as much a Czar. What Mr. Longworth clearly proved was this matter of leadership depends not so much on the rules but on the man." [Certain politicians should take Mr. Kent's appraisal to heart today...]

Gene C · 10-25-2019, 05:50 PM

I sure thought it was Alice

Thomas Kearney · 10-25-2019, 06:30 PM

Kate Chase?

Steve · 10-25-2019, 11:23 PM

John Hay's daughter, Helen.

RJNorton · 10-26-2019, 05:03 AM

Very good, Steve. Kudos! Yes, it's John Hay's daughter. She led quite an active life. My next hint was going to be that she once had a horse which won the Kentucky Derby.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Hay_Whitney

Gene C · 10-26-2019, 06:34 AM

Check out this photo of Alice Roosevelt and see the I mistook her for Helen Hay.

https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos...-roosevelt

L Verge · 10-26-2019, 10:46 AM

(10-26-2019 06:34 AM)Gene C Wrote: Check out this photo of Alice Roosevelt and see the I mistook her for Helen Hay.

https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos...-roosevelt

Gene - I traced a whole line of Alice photographs and thought the same thing. I still think Helen's gown (I'm assuming an evening gown similar to what Alice is wearing) is a bit risque for the times. Anyone know the date of Helen's photo? Gotta read up on this "lady."

Susan Higginbotham · 10-26-2019, 08:23 PM

There's another photo of Helen by the same photographer, Frances Johnston, here.

https://www.cliohistory.org/exhibits/joh...l/mosaic5/

Susan Higginbotham · 10-27-2019, 10:15 AM

Who is this lady?

"One time [we] stopped by for an impromptu call. . . . [The servant], looking doubtful, said he didn't think that ____ could be disturbed. She was sitting in her favorite chair in the back parlor completely absorbed in the radio broadcast of the World Series!"

RJNorton · 10-27-2019, 10:17 AM

Eleanor Roosevelt?

Susan Higginbotham · 10-27-2019, 10:50 AM

No, not her.