Mary Lincoln Extra Credit Questions
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08-14-2018, 12:24 PM
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08-14-2018, 01:58 PM
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I always interpreted that to be his mischievous behavior
So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in? |
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08-14-2018, 02:03 PM
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RE: Mary Lincoln Extra Credit Questions
(08-14-2018 01:58 PM)Gene C Wrote: I always interpreted that to be his mischievous behavior Me too. I don't see the statement as expressing any worry about Tad. That's not to say Mary didn't worry, but the "troublesome" strikes me as something any mother would say about a high-spirited boy given to pranks. |
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08-14-2018, 03:17 PM
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RE: Mary Lincoln Extra Credit Questions
I took it to mean that Mary was like many other adults who came into contact with Tad and did not often make public comment on his deficiencies. Rather they would look to Tad's strong points and make comment but be silent on shortcomings. John Hay was an exception (and I am sure there are more). Hay said, "He (Tad) had a very bad opinion of books and no opinion of discipline."
A good example of the point I am trying to make is what William H. Crook wrote in Through Five Administrations: "Haliday, aided by the gardener, was about to take up the carpet in the congressional, or state, dining-room. The long table made it somewhat difficult, and they were debating about which end to attack it from, when Tad appeared. He surveyed the field. 'Jim,' he said to Haliday. 'I have a favor to ask of you. Jim, grant it,' he coaxed. Jim, of course, said 'Yes,' as every one had a way of doing—and yet it wasn't because it was the President's son. 'Now, Jim,' he said, taking an attitude of command, 'you work with the other man. I will boss the job.' And Haliday, talking about it, asserts to this day: 'He told us just how to go about it. And there was no one could engineer it better than he did." Offhand, I cannot think of any Abraham Lincoln quotes where he is critical of Tad's deficiencies. According to Noah Brooks, Abraham said of Tad: "Let him run; there's enough time yet for him to learn his letters and get pokey. Bob was just such a little rascal, and now he's a very decent boy." |
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08-14-2018, 03:51 PM
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RE: Mary Lincoln Extra Credit Questions
(08-14-2018 02:03 PM)Susan Higginbotham Wrote:Mary wrote that long after the assassination. My understanding was that the assassination had matured Tad and "cured" from pranks. I also seem to recall Robert in those times still stated worries about Tad's school deficiencies, so I thought the statement might rather have referred to this than to "behavior".(08-14-2018 01:58 PM)Gene C Wrote: I always interpreted that to be his mischievous behavior |
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08-19-2018, 09:38 PM
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RE: Mary Lincoln Extra Credit Questions
(08-20-2015 07:53 PM)L Verge Wrote:(08-20-2015 07:35 PM)Anita Wrote: Yes indeed Laurie! Good detective work. Your link is fascinating. I didn't see that one. In Governor Andrews's May 12, 1865 letter to Mrs. Lincoln, in which he requested-on behalf of William Morris Hunt-the late president's "articles" (suit), he wrote, "I am sure any portrait of President Lincoln from his [Hunt's] hand would rank among the best works of art." Lincoln's black suit survived the fire and Hunt's widow donated it to the Smithsonian in 1894. Mary Lincoln also sent a suit of clothes to the artist Matthew Wilson. That suit is in Ford's Theatre. |
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10-27-2022, 06:55 PM
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RE: Mary Lincoln Extra Credit Questions
I was surprised to read what an author wrote in a review of Michael Burlingame's An American Marriage: The Untold Story of Abraham Lincoln and Mary Todd.
"Burlingame is correct in concluding that more objective biographical work needs to be undertaken about Mary Lincoln, and his conclusions as laid out in this book will stand the test of time. Like it or not (and Mary's defenders certainly will not), Burlingame has made a powerful case against Mary Lincoln and shown that her part in Abraham Lincoln's story was likely more damaging than it was beneficial." What is the name of the author who wrote this? |
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10-27-2022, 08:35 PM
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(10-27-2022 06:55 PM)RJNorton Wrote: I was surprised to read what an author wrote in a review of Michael Burlingame's An American Marriage: The Untold Story of Abraham Lincoln and Mary Todd. I'm guessing Harold Holzer. |
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10-28-2022, 04:43 AM
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Good guess, Susan, but it was not Holzer.
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10-28-2022, 07:07 AM
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RE: Mary Lincoln Extra Credit Questions
Ed Steers
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10-28-2022, 08:13 AM
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Good guess, Bill, but it was not Ed Steers.
Hint #1: It is a name that has been mentioned on this forum. |
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10-28-2022, 11:52 AM
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RE: Mary Lincoln Extra Credit Questions
Jon Meacham
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10-28-2022, 12:26 PM
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RE: Mary Lincoln Extra Credit Questions
Good guess, Dennis, but it is not Jon Meacham.
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10-28-2022, 12:53 PM
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RE: Mary Lincoln Extra Credit Questions
Is this author someone who has previously written about Lincoln?
So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in? |
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10-28-2022, 12:58 PM
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RE: Mary Lincoln Extra Credit Questions
Gene, yes, and about the Lincoln family, too.
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