Mary and Tad in Germany

[RJNorton]

Hi Dan and welcome to the forum!

According to Ruth Painter Randall's Lincoln's Sons the photo of Tad below was taken in "Frankfurt am Main, Germany, when he was between 15 and 17."

Regarding Mary I do not have any information on the photographer or place or date of the photo below. But Lloyd Ostendorf (in The Photographs of Mary Todd Lincoln) said it's from c.1869 so it might have been taken in Germany (if Ostendorf's date is correct). But that is just a guess. Jean Baker dates the photo "around 1867" which would indicate it was not taken in Germany. Ishbel Ross guesses 1869 but says "she was about to escape to Europe." Justin and Linda Levitt Turner simply say it was taken "during her early widowhood." I would lean to it not being taken in Germany, but of the known photos of her, it's the only possibility.