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Who wrote this?
03-22-2026, 06:43 PM
Post: #61
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Ernest Hemingway because of his support of the Spanish Civil War. Your second quote from the "The Sun Also Rises" was a great clue.
Here's a link from Remembering Spain: Hemingway's Civil War Eulogy and the Veterans of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Rememberi...a016871321
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03-22-2026, 07:07 PM
Post: #62
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Could this have anything to do with a trilogy of books titled The Marriage of Miss Jane Austin by Collins Hemingway?

So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in?
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03-22-2026, 09:52 PM
Post: #63
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Anita scored this one. Well done! (Scored this one? ... she seems to score more than her fair share)
And that's a very interesting link to criticism of Hemingway.

As for that quote from the book The Sun Also Rises (the quote about Lincoln), I admit to being confused as to what Hemingway was conveying when he wrote it. I assume that the man who says it in the book is drunk and making an attempt at humour. My Book Club will be discussing the book this week.

Gene, I thought your answer was an attempt at humour but then I see your thinking.

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03-23-2026, 06:04 PM
Post: #64
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(03-22-2026 09:52 PM)AussieMick Wrote:  Anita scored this one. Well done! (Scored this one? ... she seems to score more than her fair share)
And that's a very interesting link to criticism of Hemingway.

As for that quote from the book The Sun Also Rises (the quote about Lincoln), I admit to being confused as to what Hemingway was conveying when he wrote it. I assume that the man who says it in the book is drunk and making an attempt at humour. My Book Club will be discussing the book this week.
Thanks Michael. Here's a question for your book club. The Sun Also Rises was published in the US with that title. What was the title used for the first edition of the book by the UK publisher and why?
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Yesterday, 06:43 AM
Post: #65
RE: Who wrote this?
I had some problems getting a copy of The Sun Also Rises from my local public library. ( I have a copy now).
The catalogue was pointing me to 'Fiesta : the sun also rises' and I thought that was not what I wanted.

In 1927 Jonathan Cape published the novel in London under the title Fiesta. A year after the US had it as The Sun Also Rises .
As to why the titles differ ... I dont know. The AI of Google says 'Changed to The Sun Also Rises to emphasize themes of endurance and the enduring nature of the earth, as stated in the biblical passage, rather than just the decadence of the characters'. But that doesnt seem convincing to me.

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Yesterday, 06:24 PM
Post: #66
RE: Who wrote this?
(Yesterday 06:43 AM)AussieMick Wrote:  I had some problems getting a copy of The Sun Also Rises from my local public library. ( I have a copy now).
The catalogue was pointing me to 'Fiesta : the sun also rises' and I thought that was not what I wanted.
In 1927 Jonathan Cape published the novel in London under the title Fiesta. A year after the US had it as The Sun Also Rises .
As to why the titles differ ... I dont know. The AI of Google says 'Changed to The Sun Also Rises to emphasize themes of endurance and the enduring nature of the earth, as stated in the biblical passage, rather than just the decadence of the characters'. But that doesnt seem convincing to me.
This might help from Duck.ai: The documented exchange is:
Hemingway told editor Maxwell Perkins the novel’s title came from Ecclesiastes 1:5 (“the sun also ariseth”).
Perkins did ask for revisions; Hemingway made some edits but resisted larger structural changes Perkins proposed.
Hemingway defended the novel’s tone and endings as intentional; he did not describe it as deliberately leaving readers hopeless in order to avoid Perkins’ requests.
Primary evidence comes from their correspondence and publishing history: Perkins pushed for cuts and smoothing; Hemingway accepted some but maintained the book’s austere, often bleak tone and the Ecclesiastes epigraph as appropriate.
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Jonathan Cape saw the title Fiesta as more relevant to European readers since it takes place mostly in Spain and uses the power of the Spanish word in its title.
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Today, 04:01 PM
Post: #67
RE: Who wrote this?
I see that Jonathan Cape is still publishing.... I'm surprised. I see that it has been taken over by Penguin Random House ... I'm not surprised.

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