Extra Credit Questions

[RJNorton]

You are much closer than Mike but not within 5.

[AussieMick]

My logic was that 5 is too low. So 10? No, still too low. So 20? No, I thought, that's too high.
Closer to 15 than 20, then? (I thought) ... hence my 16.

I think 9 is too low , so I'll say 16+6 ... 22

(My last guess ... may assist someone else)

[David Lockmiller]

I will guess 31, based logically on Roger's statement that 76 is much too high and the fact that Mike's most recent guess of 22 would encompass numbers through 26 to be correct.

27 + 4 = 31 and 31 + 5 = 36. So, I cover the numbers from 27 through 36.

[RJNorton]

David got it as he is within 5. You were sure close Michael. Kudos, David.

The answer to this question was in Ed Steers' speech at the Surratt Conference in 2021.

[STS Lincolnite]

(05-18-2025 11:35 AM)RJNorton Wrote:  David got it as he is within 5. You were sure close Michael. Kudos, David.

The answer to this question was in Ed Steers' speech at the Surratt Conference in 2021.

So what was the exact number that Ed gave?

On the worldwide map of Lincoln sculptures that Dave Wiegers and I have created, we identify 37 Lincoln sculptures (statues, busts, reliefs) outside of the US. There are a couple more that we are aware of as possibilities but we have not been able to confirm.

For a link to the map and to view answers to some related frequently asked questions, you can visit this web page:

https://dbwiegers.zenfolio.com/lincoln-sculpture-map

[RJNorton]

Scott, Ed gave 28 as the answer, but I do not know how he arrived at that figure.

[David Lockmiller]

(05-19-2025 02:42 PM)STS Lincolnite Wrote:  

(05-18-2025 11:35 AM)RJNorton Wrote:  David got it as he is within 5. You were sure close Michael. Kudos, David.

The answer to this question was in Ed Steers' speech at the Surratt Conference in 2021.

So what was the exact number that Ed gave?

On the worldwide map of Lincoln sculptures that Dave Wiegers and I have created, we identify 37 Lincoln sculptures (statues, busts, reliefs) outside of the US. There are a couple more that we are aware of as possibilities but we have not been able to confirm.

For a link to the map and to view answers to some related frequently asked questions, you can visit this web page:

https://dbwiegers.zenfolio.com/lincoln-sculpture-map

Great job! You put a lot of work and skill into this project.

I checked one location. It was Hawaii. It was an excellent statue of Abraham Lincoln as a frontiersman - rugged young man with a long-handled axe in his hands, wearing boots, and ready to chop trees not far from Decatur, Illinois where I was born and raised.

It would be interesting to learn the reason this period in his life was the chosen subject. The statue was sculpted and dedicated during World War II.

Title: Lincoln, The Frontiersman
Sculptor: Avard T. Fairbanks
Location: Ewa Public School
Ewa Beach, Hawaii
Dedicated/Displayed: 2/12/1944

[STS Lincolnite]

(05-20-2025 08:48 AM)David Lockmiller Wrote:  Great job! You put a lot of work and skill into this project.

I checked one location. It was Hawaii. It was an excellent statue of Abraham Lincoln as a frontiersman - rugged young man with a long-handled axe in his hands, wearing boots, and ready to chop trees not far from Decatur, Illinois where I was born and raised.

It would be interesting to learn the reason this period in his life was the chosen subject. The statue was sculpted and dedicated during World War II.

Title: Lincoln, The Frontiersman
Sculptor: Avard T. Fairbanks
Location: Ewa Public School
Ewa Beach, Hawaii
Dedicated/Displayed: 2/12/1944

Thanks for checking out the map David! We are getting ready to do an update to our frequently asked questions page and to add some newly discovered (to us) sculptures to the map.

More on the Fairbanks statue in Hawaii per your request:

In 1939 a Katherine Burke, a former teacher and principal made a bequest to the Ewa Plantation school for the construction of a Lincoln statue. The money available was small and several sculptors declined due to this. Avard Fairbanks was contacted and was interested in spite of the small budget.

Fairbanks first thought of Lincoln in a frock coat as it along with trousers was appealing “from just the standpoint of the lines.” He also considered Lincoln wearing a shawl but then decided that just wouldn’t do in a tropical climate. The idea of Lincoln as a youth captured his attention when he considered that the benefactor was a school teacher who desired to inspire her students.

The idea of the young frontier Lincoln with ax in hand came to Fairbanks as he was clearing trees and stumps on his recently deceased father’s farm. There weren’t many sculptural depictions of Lincoln as frontiersman at the time. He sought some feedback and all was positive. From an article in the Journal of the Abraham Lincoln Association: “The concept of a young Lincoln, figure in action, for a school in a relatively young territory in the Pacific, a frontier, was received with enthusiasm.”

When the statue was finally nearing production it was war time in Europe (WWII), and there was some concern that there would be restrictions on non-military uses of metal that might delay completion. But it was in fact cast before restrictions were put in place. Delivery was delayed by the attack on Pearl Harbor so the statue was not actually delivered until 1943. I was dedicated on 12 February 1944 in honor of Lincoln’s 135th birthday.

From a newspaper article announcing the dedication of the statue:
“The statue cast in bronze is of a youthful Lincoln…a stalwart and capable worker, a symbol of physical strength as well as spiritual.” “The base upon which is the statue is placed is of rainbow granite. In ancient days the symbol of the rainbow was given to Noah that there should never again be such a deluge as the flood on the face of the earth. This base, now being so near Pearl Harbor, can also symbolize our hope that there will never again be the deluge of atrocities such as those which occurred there.”

[David Lockmiller]

(05-21-2025 09:59 AM)STS Lincolnite Wrote:  

(05-20-2025 08:48 AM)David Lockmiller Wrote:  Title: Lincoln, The Frontiersman
Sculptor: Avard T. Fairbanks
Location: Ewa Public School
Ewa Beach, Hawaii
Dedicated/Displayed: 2/12/1944

More on the Fairbanks statue in Hawaii per your request:

In 1939, Katherine Burke, a former teacher and principal made a bequest to the Ewa Plantation school for the construction of a Lincoln statue. The money available was small and several sculptors declined due to this. Avard Fairbanks was contacted and was interested in spite of the small budget. The idea of Lincoln as a youth captured his attention when he considered that the benefactor was a school teacher who desired to inspire her students.

The idea of the young frontier Lincoln with ax in hand came to Fairbanks as he was clearing trees and stumps on his recently deceased father’s farm. . . . From an article in the Journal of the Abraham Lincoln Association: “The concept of a young Lincoln, figure in action, for a school in a relatively young territory in the Pacific, a frontier, was received with enthusiasm.”

From a newspaper article announcing the dedication of the statue:
“The statue cast in bronze is of a youthful Lincoln…a stalwart and capable worker, a symbol of physical strength as well as spiritual.” “The base upon which is the statue is placed is of rainbow granite. In ancient days the symbol of the rainbow was given to Noah that there should never again be such a deluge as the flood on the face of the earth.”

You are thorough!

In my research online, I saw some photographs of the sculptor Avard T. Fairbanks at work. He used stick figures at size to sculp the position of body parts and other portions of the prospective sculpture. Do you know if that is a common practice among sculptors?

[STS Lincolnite]

(05-21-2025 10:51 AM)David Lockmiller Wrote:  In my research online, I saw some photographs of the sculptor Avard T. Fairbanks at work. He used stick figures at size to sculp the position of body parts and other portions of the prospective sculpture. Do you know if that is a common practice among sculptors?

As far as I know, using stick figures in this manner (at least related to Lincoln sculptures) is not common.

Apparently, Fairbanks completed a bust of Lincoln on a 1963 episode of the Ed Sullivan Show (and used that technique). On that same episode, Hal Holbrook portrayed Lincoln. I have been trying to find that full episode online to view, but as of yet, I have had no luck.

Any suggestions on where to find it would be appreciated!

[David Lockmiller]

(05-21-2025 01:28 PM)STS Lincolnite Wrote:  Apparently, Fairbanks completed a bust of Lincoln on a 1963 episode of the Ed Sullivan Show (and used that technique). On that same episode, Hal Holbrook portrayed Lincoln. I have been trying to find that full episode online to view, but as of yet, I have had no luck.

Any suggestions on where to find it would be appreciated!

I Googled and found this information:

Sculptor Avard Tennyson Fairbanks works on a clay model of Abe Lincoln's head throughout show. Rate. Ed Sullivan in The Ed Sullivan Show (1948). S16.E21 .


The Ed Sullivan Show (TV Series 1948–1971) - Episode ...

IMDb
https://www.imdb.com › title › episodes

[STS Lincolnite]

(05-21-2025 03:08 PM)David Lockmiller Wrote:  I Googled and found this information:

Sculptor Avard Tennyson Fairbanks works on a clay model of Abe Lincoln's head throughout show. Rate. Ed Sullivan in The Ed Sullivan Show (1948). S16.E21 .


The Ed Sullivan Show (TV Series 1948–1971) - Episode ...

IMDb
https://www.imdb.com › title › episodes

Yeah, that is the information I have. Except the correct episode is Season 16 episode 20 (not 21). It originally aired 10 February 1963.

I can find info on the episode, I just can't find a place that has the full episode for viewing. Most of the streaming services only have "highlight" episodes like when the Beatles appeared and so forth. Hard to find just a regular, single episode.

[Rob Wick]

(05-22-2025 07:37 AM)STS Lincolnite Wrote:  

(05-21-2025 03:08 PM)David Lockmiller Wrote:  I Googled and found this information:

Sculptor Avard Tennyson Fairbanks works on a clay model of Abe Lincoln's head throughout show. Rate. Ed Sullivan in The Ed Sullivan Show (1948). S16.E21 .


The Ed Sullivan Show (TV Series 1948–1971) - Episode ...

IMDb
https://www.imdb.com › title › episodes

Yeah, that is the information I have. Except the correct episode is Season 16 episode 20 (not 21). It originally aired 10 February 1963.

I can find info on the episode, I just can't find a place that has the full episode for viewing. Most of the streaming services only have "highlight" episodes like when the Beatles appeared and so forth. Hard to find just a regular, single episode.

SOFA Entertainment is the company that owns the rights to the Ed Sullivan library. You might contact them to see if there might be a way to get the episode.

Best
Rob

https://www.edsullivan.com/sofa-entertainment/

[Linda Anderson]

I searched for Arvard Tennyson Fairbanks on YouTube and found several videos concerning him.

The Tribute Video to Avard T. Tennyson includes him sculpting a "preliminary modeling of a portrait" of Abraham Lincoln which starts at about 50 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yuz_F_q...reFrodsham