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LincolnMan · 08-07-2016, 05:47 PM

He was on the British side in the War of 1812 assisting in the fall of Detroit.

RJNorton · 09-28-2016, 12:42 PM

A girl named Lizzy Murty is mentioned in at least one book I have. She was anti-Lincoln during the Civil War and did something that showed her dislike of the President. What did Lizzy do to Abraham Lincoln?

L Verge · 09-28-2016, 12:59 PM

She attempted to spit on his head from a balcony while he was speaking at the National Hotel on the day of Booth's aborted kidnap attempt.

RJNorton · 09-28-2016, 01:07 PM

Wow, was that quick! Brilliant, Laurie! That is correct.

I cannot think of a prize for this one so you'll just have to settle for best wishes for a nice day.

Eva Elisabeth · (This post was last modified: 09-28-2016 01:15 PM by Eva Elisabeth.)

I second Laurie - I once wanted to post that as a trivia question, too. I think I read it on one of the Mr. Lincoln's White House sites.

RJNorton · 09-28-2016, 01:14 PM

(09-28-2016 01:07 PM)Eva Elisabeth Wrote: I second Laurie - I once wanted to post that as a trivia question, too. I think I read it on one of the Mr. Lincoln's White House sites.

You win, too, Eva! Kudos.

L Verge · 09-28-2016, 05:43 PM

(09-28-2016 01:07 PM)RJNorton Wrote: Wow, was that quick! Brilliant, Laurie! That is correct.

I cannot think of a prize for this one so you'll just have to settle for best wishes for a nice day.

Thank you for not crowning me with a spit as my prize! P.S. I think the Surratt Courier may have carried this story many long years ago in dealing with the aborted kidnapping.

Eva Elisabeth · 09-28-2016, 06:23 PM

(09-28-2016 05:43 PM)L Verge Wrote:
(09-28-2016 01:07 PM)RJNorton Wrote: Wow, was that quick! Brilliant, Laurie! That is correct.

I cannot think of a prize for this one so you'll just have to settle for best wishes for a nice day.

Thank you for not crowning me with a spit as my prize! P.S. I think the Surratt Courier may have carried this story many long years ago in dealing with the aborted kidnapping.

What about an umbrella (or period parasol)?

RJNorton · 09-29-2016, 03:51 AM

(09-28-2016 05:43 PM)L Verge Wrote: Thank you for not crowning me with a spit as my prize! P.S. I think the Surratt Courier may have carried this story many long years ago in dealing with the aborted kidnapping.

The book where I saw the story was Stanley Kimmel's The Mad Booths of Maryland.

(09-28-2016 06:23 PM)Eva Elisabeth Wrote: What about an umbrella (or period parasol)?

I should have thought of that!

Eva Elisabeth · (This post was last modified: 09-29-2016 09:11 AM by Eva Elisabeth.)

I once read it as follows on this site:
http://www.mrlincolnswhitehouse.org/wash...nal-hotel/

"...on March 17, 1865, the President had visited the hotel where he spoke to the 140th Indiana Regiment from the balcony and presented a captured Confederate flag to Governor Oliver Morton of Indiana. He warned his audience that he would say only a few words:

I was born in Kentucky, raised in Indiana, reside in Illinois, and now here, it is my duty to care equally for the good people of all the States. I am to-day glad of seeing it in the power of an Indiana regiment to present this captured flag to the good governor of their State. And yet I would not wish to compliment Indiana above other states, remembering that all have done so well. There are but few aspects of this great war on which I have not already expressed my views by speaking or writing. There is one–the recent effort of our erring brethern, sometimes so-called, to employ the slaves in their armies. The great question with them has been; “will the negro fight for them?” They ought to know better than we; and doubtless, do know better than we. I may incidentally remark, however, that having, in my life, heard many arguments,–or strings of words meant to pass for arguments,–intended to show that the negro ought to be a slave, that if he shall now really fight to keep himself a salve, it will be a far better argument why [he] should remain a slave than I have ever before heard. He, perhaps, ought to be a slave, if he desires it ardently enough to fight for it. Or, if one out of four will, for his own freedom, fight to keep the other three in slavery, he ought to be a slave for his selfish meanness. I have always thought that all men should be free; but if any should be slaves it should be first those who desire it for themselves, and secondly those who desire it for others. Whenever [I] hear any one, arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.
There is one thing about the negroes fighting for the rebels which we can know as well [as] they can; and that is that they can not, at {the] same time fight in their armies, and stay at home and make bread for them. And this being known and remembered we can have but little concern whether they become soldiers or not. I am rather in favor of the measure; and would at any time if I could, have loaned them a vote to carry it. We have to reach the bottom of the insurgent resources; and that they employ, or seriously think of employing, the slaves as soldiers, gives us glimpses of the bottom. Therefore I am glad of what we learn on this subject.

According to Stanley Kimmel, author of Mr. Lincoln’s Washington, 'As Lincoln left the balcony, there were more cheers, and music by the band. To many present, he still appeared to be in ill-health, and after receiving the greetings of a few personal friends in the parlor of the hotel, he returned to the White House. It was upon this occasion that Wilkes Booth, then living at the hotel, mingled in the crowd swarming about Lincoln’s carriage, and watched him with such a demoniacal expression that his hatred of the President was noticed by those standing nearby. It was also while Lincoln was speaking that a girl named Lizzy Murty, who resided there and was known as the genuine Secesh,’ tried to spit upon his head. Not until Lincoln was dead were the facts known and the girl take into custody.'”

...and due to my trivia addiction subsequently got the book.

L Verge · (This post was last modified: 09-29-2016 12:44 PM by L Verge.)

(09-29-2016 03:51 AM)RJNorton Wrote:
(09-28-2016 05:43 PM)L Verge Wrote: Thank you for not crowning me with a spit as my prize! P.S. I think the Surratt Courier may have carried this story many long years ago in dealing with the aborted kidnapping.

The book where I saw the story was Stanley Kimmel's The Mad Booths of Maryland.

(09-28-2016 06:23 PM)Eva Elisabeth Wrote: What about an umbrella (or period parasol)?

I should have thought of that!

Kimmel also wrote Mr. Lincoln's City, so it might be mentioned in that also. Ooops. Just read Eva's post, and she is correct about Kimmel's title.

BettyO · (This post was last modified: 09-29-2016 05:54 PM by BettyO.)

Mr. Lincoln's Washington is available online as a free ebook download. Mr. Kimmel also wrote as a companion book, the much more scarce, Mr. Davis' Richmond. I am lucky enough to have a copy of the latter - and don't think it's available as an ebook at present.

L Verge · 09-29-2016, 05:59 PM

There is a book entitled Mr. Lincoln's City, written about 30 years ago by Richard M. Lee. Lots of good photos. I have seen it on Amazon for really low prices.

RJNorton · 11-13-2017, 01:47 PM

What was the length (in inches) of the sleeves of the greatcoat that Abraham Lincoln wore to Ford's Theatre on April 14, 1865?

Thomas Kearney · 11-13-2017, 02:00 PM

I had to bring out my ruler for this one. Since I'm an inch shorter than Abraham Lincoln, I figured our arm length would be the same. My guess is 21 inches. Final answer.