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Dr. Charles Augustus Leale
01-23-2013, 11:06 AM
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Dr. Charles Augustus Leale
Hey guys/gals,
This is my senior thesis paper on Charles Leale, tell me what you think and give opinions/comments!

-Matt


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01-23-2013, 11:20 AM (This post was last modified: 01-23-2013 11:21 AM by Gene C.)
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Nice job...one little comment. On the top of p4 "As Lincoln drifted in and out of conciousness", it was my understanding that the president never regained conciousness after being shot. But, I could be mistaken. Is this a quote from Leale?

I was always curious about what happened to Leale after the war. Thanks for the info

So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in?
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01-23-2013, 11:23 AM
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Gene,
You are correct, he never slipped back in, but many thought he would. As I researched, I found that many found Lincoln to be immortal and a higher being in the sense that he would not die like the way he did.
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01-23-2013, 11:29 AM
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Great going, Matt - thanks for sharing!

"The Past is a foreign country...they do things differently there" - L. P. Hartley
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01-23-2013, 12:24 PM
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Anytime guys/gals!
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01-23-2013, 03:43 PM
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Matt,

Thanks for the fascinating read. Well done!

Your narrative of the assassination night - especially when AL is carried from the theatre - brought to mind Carl Bersch's painting, Borne by Loving Hands. Have you seen it?

RC
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01-23-2013, 04:16 PM
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I have not seen it yet!!!!!
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01-23-2013, 10:41 PM (This post was last modified: 01-23-2013 10:53 PM by ReignetteC.)
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(01-23-2013 04:16 PM)JWB1865 Wrote:  I have not seen it yet!!!!!
Reck's A Lincoln His Last 24 Hours, provides a picture of the painting (see page 130). Also, you can view it via a Google® search. Further, I think the picture is at Ford's, but I do not know if it is currently on display.
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01-24-2013, 04:54 AM
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Over the years I have tried to make a list of all the men who either claimed or were given credit to have helped carry the stricken president across the street from Ford's Theatre to the Petersen House. The names include Dr. Charles Leale, Dr. Charles Taft, Dr. Albert King, Albert Daggett, Augustus Clark, Capt. Obadiah Jackson Downing, Capt. Edwin Bedee, Major Isaac Walker McClay, W.H. Flood, Frederick Johnstone, Jacob J. Soles, John Corey, Jacob
Griffiths, William Sample, William McPeck, John Weaver, Joseph Hazelton, Capt. Owen, Capt. John Sears, Capt. John Busby, Capt. Oliver C. Gatch, George A. Clark, Thomas Gourlay, John Veach, Major White, and William Greer.

If anyone knows of additional names (or "claims") please send!

Oliver Gatch recalled, "There was silence as we passed. No one spoke. As we moved slowly across the street, the only sound that was heard above the sobbing of the people was the hoofbeats of cavalry already approaching." (from p. 103 of Tom Goodrich's The Darkest Dawn)
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01-24-2013, 02:10 PM
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A descendant of Capt. Obadiah Jackson Downing did an article on this subject a number of years ago for the Surratt Courier. When you read all of these people who claimed to have carried Lincoln across the street, you can only assume that it was done via crowd surfing.

PS: For any old-timers on this forum, that's like rock concerts where a person is lifted up and passed overhead from one wild audience member to another.
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01-24-2013, 05:46 PM
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Matt,

Very good and also very clearly written. You've got a bright future.

Best
Rob

Abraham Lincoln in the only man, dead or alive, with whom I could have spent five years without one hour of boredom.
--Ida M. Tarbell
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01-25-2013, 09:50 PM
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(01-24-2013 04:54 AM)RJNorton Wrote:  Over the years I have tried to make a list of all the men who either claimed or were given credit to have helped carry the stricken president across the street from Ford's Theatre to the Petersen House. The names include Dr. Charles Leale, Dr. Charles Taft, Dr. Albert King, Albert Daggett, Augustus Clark, Capt. Obadiah Jackson Downing, Capt. Edwin Bedee, Major Isaac Walker McClay, W.H. Flood, Frederick Johnstone, Jacob J. Soles, John Corey, Jacob
Griffiths, William Sample, William McPeck, John Weaver, Joseph Hazelton, Capt. Owen, Capt. John Sears, Capt. John Busby, Capt. Oliver C. Gatch, George A. Clark, Thomas Gourlay, John Veach, Major White, and William Greer.

If anyone knows of additional names (or "claims") please send!

Oliver Gatch recalled, "There was silence as we passed. No one spoke. As we moved slowly across the street, the only sound that was heard above the sobbing of the people was the hoofbeats of cavalry already approaching." (from p. 103 of Tom Goodrich's The Darkest Dawn)

I haven't read through it, Roger, but perhaps there are more names for your list here: http://archive.org/details/assassxxx00linc
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01-26-2013, 05:14 AM
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Many thanks, Dave. I'll check it out. This impossibly huge list of Lincoln bearers reminds me of Holzer and Williams' Rubber Room Phenomenon topped by Alonzo Chappel's depiction of 47 mourners in Willie Clark's room at the Petersen House:

[Image: deathoflincoln.jpg]
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01-26-2013, 08:55 AM (This post was last modified: 01-26-2013 08:55 AM by BettyO.)
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Love this painting, but Clark's room here is depicted as the size of a ballroom!

"The Past is a foreign country...they do things differently there" - L. P. Hartley
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01-26-2013, 10:40 AM
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It probably just looks bigger without that security rail.

There seem to be four other women in the room besides Mrs. Lincoln. To the right of Robert looks like Clara Harris.
In reality, what other women besides Mrs. Lincoln were allowed in the room?

So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in?
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