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Eva Elisabeth · 12-19-2013, 06:52 AM

Thanks for posting the outcome of your research! Now I was interested in the details, too. Great you found this!

Gene C · (This post was last modified: 12-19-2013 08:07 AM by Gene C.)

Eva and Angela, You two are awesome. But you may have blown your cover with the NSA Cool

What's the story behind your post? Inquiring minds want to know.
What triggered your search? How did you know who to look for and where to look?

Eva Elisabeth · (This post was last modified: 12-19-2013 08:08 PM by Eva Elisabeth.)

Fido, I didn't know you are a sniffer dog...now you are uncovered, too!

Angela · 12-20-2013, 02:36 AM

(12-19-2013 08:07 AM)Gene C Wrote: Eva and Angela, You two are awesome. But you may have blown your cover with the NSA

What's the story behind your post? Inquiring minds want to know.
What triggered your search? How did you know who to look for and where to look?

Thank you, Gene! Germans...we need everything in order ;-)

I had come across this quote a few times and it somehow irked me that in every variation, no details on the people involved were given. It was always "leading radicals" or "the most prominent...".
So after seeing it a couple of times, I tried to look up a source - and it was always Donald. I knew that could not be the original source and that is how it started.

I have noticed that researching this particular part of history is not always free of politics and every once in a while, a quote gets twisted or taken out of context.
More often than not, it happens with Lincoln quotes - but in this case it was Julian.

I'm quite a newbie and lacking so many important books - Rob's advice to find the Nicolay/Hay biography online is Christmas come early!
And Eva is a walking encyclopedia - when she mentioned Julian, digging up his diary wasn't all that difficult.

Eva Elisabeth · 12-20-2013, 03:42 AM

Angela, please delete that last sentence, I just looked it up in the right book. I read about that topic not that long ago.

Eva Elisabeth · 12-20-2013, 06:55 AM

(12-20-2013 02:36 AM)Angela Wrote: Germans...we need everything in order ;-)

Er, better don't look at my desk or into my folders...

Jim Garrett · 12-20-2013, 08:53 AM

(12-18-2013 02:17 PM)Rogerm Wrote: Johnson was not nearly as good a politician as Lincoln. Nor, was he as diplomatic. He was also from a southern state (Tennessee) and a former slave-owner; things that did not endear him much to the Radical Republicans. His decision to fire Secretary of War Stanton didn't help him much either.

Roger, you are correct. At best, Andy was an outsider. Lincoln was an almost impossible act to follow. He did not have the political clout nor the patience needed to have a successful 2nd act.