Booth escape route north

[wsanto]

(09-08-2013 11:57 PM)SSlater Wrote:  How far did Booth Jump? There is no sense measuring from the rail to the stage floor - he didn't drop straight down. We need to know, how far out on the stage did he hit. Also, we should include the height above the rail, when he reached the apex of the curve he traveled. I would say, without assurity, that it appears to be about 3/4 of one-half of a sine wave. Thus, we need to calculate the amplitude and frequency of the curve. Should we use his head as the measuring point? Don't use his hips, because they may have rotated during his flight, and would not be a pure sine wave. Let's get this right.

Good God. Calculus? It really doesn't matter if it was 5 feet or 15 feet. an injury may have or may not have occurred at any height between. What matters most is how he landed. How much force was distributed to his fibula versus his tibia. A fibula can break if you step into a gopher hole and twist your foot. It is not much diifferent than the force needed to sprain your ankle.

I broke my tibia and fibula on ice skates in a twisting fall to the ice while moving slowly backwards.

[Jenny]

Quote:I broke my tibia and fibula on ice skates in a twisting fall to the ice while moving slowly backwards.

Ouch.

You're right though - although I am interested in knowing the actual distance from the balcony to the stage for my own curiosity, it is really about how much momentum he had and how hard he fell, which we'll never know. The injury really could have happened from various distances.

[L Verge]

I already gave the approximate distance from railing to stage when I described Mike Kauffman's leap from a stepladder. If you also visit Ford's Theatre online, there is a question and answer section which tells the approximate distance. In the Information Age, one does not have to travel to Ford's to get the information.

As for George Washington Baird, I was already aware that he became an admiral and is often termed The Father of the American Navy. Some of you may have heard of the Illuminati theory that a special group of "chosen people" have controlled history throughout the ages. The Freemasons are often accused of being the heart of the Illuminati. Of course, many of us in the field have run across the theory that these special people have murdered Presidents, kings, etc. for centuries. That extends to the Lincoln assassination. Here is just a tidbit on Baird's involvement with the Illuminati as posted on an anti-Mason site:

I paraphrase Mrs. Eustis: During the Civil War (from 1861-1865), President Lincoln needed money to finance the War . The loan shark-bankers wanted 24% to 36% interest. Instead, Lincoln got Congress to authorize the printing of 450 million dollars worth of "Greenbacks" debt and interest-free money. It served as legal tender for all debts, public and private.

The House of Rothschild recognized that sovereign governments printing interest-free and debt-free paper money would break their power.

Lincoln's assassin, John Wilkes Booth, was a member of Pike's Knights of the Golden Circle. He was in New Orleans during the winter of 1863-64 and conspired with Pike, Benjamin, Slidell and Admiral G.W. Baird to assassinate Lincoln. Baird later identified the body of Captain James William Boyd as Booth's. (Boyd was in fact a Confederate spy who resembled Booth and was used as a patsy. His body was dumped into an Arsenal Prison sinkhole used to dump dead horses.)

Eustis says her father emphasized that most Masons below the 3rd degree were good hardworking people. The Illuminati-Skull and Bones used the Masons as a disguise. Those who rose past the 33 degree level did so by participating in the "Killing of the King" ritual. The lower levels did as they were told without realizing their part in the "Killing of the King".

For assassinating Abraham Lincoln, Pike, Benjamin, Slidell and August Belmont (Rothschild's Northern agent) were made secret Kings of the Mystick Krewe of Comus. Andrew Johnson Vice -President became President and pardoned Albert Pike. Albert Pike awarded Andrew Johnson the thirty-third degree rite of passage.

Throughout its history the United States has been in the clutches of a satanic cult empowered by the Rothschild central banking cartel. Many courageous Presidents and other politicians tried to free their countrymen and died unrecognized, their killers unpunished and triumphant.

The US is a nation decapitated, a headless giant led by demons.

[wsanto]

Yikes!

[L Verge]

See why my nerves stand on edge whenever a new "theory" is presented? This has been a good portion of my life for the last forty years. Mike Kauffman used to call this the assassination version of WhackaMole.

[Gene C]

Who is Mrs. Eustis? Is she the daughter of George Washington Baird?
this sounds like the plot to "National Treasure 2" with Nicolas Cage.

You had me for a minute there, but you didn't make the connection to Salmon Chase and the Treasury Scandal of 1863

[Jenny]

Quote:I already gave the approximate distance from railing to stage when I described Mike Kauffman's leap from a stepladder. If you also visit Ford's Theatre online, there is a question and answer section which tells the approximate distance. In the Information Age, one does not have to travel to Ford's to get the information.

This - I forget about the Mike Kauffman conversation earlier in the thread. AND Ford's Theater online does have the distance... which I didn't search for last night (duh, self).

Laurie, you had me a little freaked out for a moment there! Good job!

[L Verge]

When you have nothing better to do than chase down Illuminati theories, start here:

http://rense.com/general76/maa1k.htm

Gene, in answer to who Mrs. Eustis was:

The Mardi Gras Secrets website <http://www.mardigrassecrets.com/index.html> was created in Dec. 2005 by Mimi L. Eustis, the daughter of Samuel Todd Churchill, a high level member of the secret New Orleans Mardi Gras Society called "The Mystick Crewe of Comus."

This Society, which reorganized the Mardi Gras festivities in 1857, was a chapter of the Skull and Bones. It began as a front for the activities of Masons Albert Pike, Judah Benjamin and John Slidell who became leaders of the Confederacy.

This information is based on Samuel Churchill's deathbed confessions, when he was dying of lung cancer. Mrs. Eustis later decided to make them public after she also contracted the terminal disease.

I would also suggest that, now that you have a taste of dealing with theories, we not devote this wonderful site to comments and opinions that can confuse the real evidence.

[JMadonna]

(09-09-2013 04:39 AM)wsanto Wrote:  I broke my tibia and fibula on ice skates in a twisting fall to the ice while moving slowly backwards.

Sorry to hear that but I think you'll admit your break came from the twisting rather than the fall.

Booth made many leaps and jumps from the stage. He was what I'd call stunt man savvy. Since he planned this leap he would have known how to hit the floor. I don't think the spur dragging down the flag bunting would have made any difference in how he planned to land he would have adjusted in the air, if needed. If the bunting on the spur made a difference the injury would have been more like yours.

I can see him hitting the floor feet first, with the bunting and then landing on his hands. This would be natural but called 'awkward'

[Rsmyth]

The "Revenge of Old Glory" story did come about some 20 years after the event but, there were witnesses who stated within days that the assassin got his spur caught in the flag.
Jason S. Knox, who was seated in the second row of the orchestra level wrote in a letter to his father the day after the President’s death “Just after the 3rd act, and before the scenes were shifted, a muffled pistol shot was heard, and a man sprang wildly from the national box, partially tearing down the flag… - Letter dated April 16th 1865.
Spencer Bronson, in a letter to his sister shortly after the assassination on April 16th 1865 wrote “Then suddenly a pistol shot is heard – No one is alarmed for it is believed to be part of the play. A clang takes place a dark form is seen to fall from the private box his spurs catching in the flag as he descends

[J. Beckert]

Ferguson's account mentioned the flag tear the next day I believe.

[wsanto]

(09-09-2013 03:27 PM)JMadonna Wrote:  

(09-09-2013 04:39 AM)wsanto Wrote:  I broke my tibia and fibula on ice skates in a twisting fall to the ice while moving slowly backwards.

Sorry to hear that but I think you'll admit your break came from the twisting rather than the fall.

Booth made many leaps and jumps from the stage. He was what I'd call stunt man savvy. Since he planned this leap he would have known how to hit the floor. I don't think the spur dragging down the flag bunting would have made any difference in how he planned to land he would have adjusted in the air, if needed. If the bunting on the spur made a difference the injury would have been more like yours.

I can see him hitting the floor feet first, with the bunting and then landing on his hands. This would be natural but called 'awkward'

Jerry,

I would disagree (surprise surprise).

This wasn't a play. He just shot the President (The President!) then had to fend off Rathbone with his knife in an unplanned scuffle. He only has so much time...seconds must seem like minutes with his adrenaline rushing...he needs to get away, get across the stage, get to his horse.

He leaps over the railing, catches his spur on the flag...despite this, he still manages to land almost perfectly except a little too much of his weight is forced on the outside of his left foot... the foot twist ever so slighty causing a minor fracture in his fibula...he feels it...but it won't stop him...he stands tall. "Sic Semper Tyrannus"...He runs off the stage...

[JMadonna]

So you think that bunting was tacked up secure enough to alter the fall of a 155 pound man going 32 ft/sec? You just don't get workmanship like that anymore. Booth didn't even know he took the bunting down until he stomped on the 'flag' before he exited stage right.

[wsanto]

(09-09-2013 06:29 PM)JMadonna Wrote:  So you think that bunting was tacked up secure enough to alter the fall of a 155 pound man going 32 ft/sec? You just don't get workmanship like that anymore. Booth didn't even know he took the bunting down until he stomped on the 'flag' before he exited stage right.

I think the bunting was the most irrelevant part. He may have landed almost perfectly except for some added pressure to his left lateral malleolus putting just enough force on the fibula to cause a minor fracture. It wouldn't take much from that height.

[L Verge]

There's a difference between the bunting that was draping the rail of the box and the Treasury Guard Flag that was hanging free from a holder. It was the free-hanging flag that Booth is believed to have caught his spur in.