Throwing more Mudd in the game

[RJNorton]

(09-27-2013 12:43 AM)SSlater Wrote:  How can we say that Atzerodt was a liar and not to be believed, and in the next breath, say he is to be believed? I think they ALL lied when it suited their case and told the truth when it would divert the blame to someone else. Atzerodt was prone to brag -to show how important he was, when in fact he didn't know what he was talking about.

Atzerodt has me puzzled here. Who was the New York crowd? (yes, I realize I have asked that before) It almost sounds like they were a group of Northerners working with the Condederate operatives to get Lincoln one way or another. Is this something Atzerodt would just make up? To me it sounds like there is some "meat" to this. Atzerodt stated:

Booth said he had met a party in N. York who would get the Prest. certain. They were going to mine the end of the pres. House, near the War Dept. They knew an entrance to accomplish it through. Spoke about getting friends of the Presdt. to get up an entertainment & they would mix it in, have a serenade & thus get at the Presdt. & party.

These were understood to be projects.

Booth said if he did not get him quick the N. York crowd would. Booth knew the New York party apparently by a sign. He saw Booth give some kind of sign to two parties on the Avenue who he said were from New York

A few days ago I happened upon a show on the Military Channel where they tried to simulate what kind of damage Harney's bomb could have caused to the White House. The conclusion, as I understood it, was that if the bomb were placed in the White House's lower level, and Lincoln was in the room above, then Lincoln most likely would have been killed. (I thought they said the bomb would probably be placed below the State Dining Room, but I am not sure I heard that correctly.) They said much of the force of the blast would have been directed upwards which would have collapsed the floor above, killing many or all who might have been in that room.