Hellmira! Execution-Retribution-or War Crimes?
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08-18-2012, 02:32 PM
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RE: Hellmira! Execution-Retribution-or War Crimes?
Yes,you are correct about the numbers of Irish in the prison-especially from NYCity.My great grandfather[William Ryan]was from Ireland.
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08-18-2012, 02:36 PM
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RE: Hellmira! Execution-Retribution-or War Crimes?
The first time that I ever heard the word "shebang" used in terms of a shelter was in Warren Wilkinson's book Mother May You Never See The Sights I Have Seen. It is a history of the 57th Massachusetts infantry. My G-G Grandfather served as a drummer boy in that Regiment. Wilkinson describes a shebang as "torn blankets and rags thrown over crude stick and brush frames."
It seems to me that they were made out of any type of material that a prisoner in one of those camps could find. In this case the prison that Wilkinson was referring to was Andersonville. I imagine that it was a pretty common term used by soldiers in those days. Craig |
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08-18-2012, 04:10 PM
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RE: Hellmira! Execution-Retribution-or War Crimes?
Thanks-Craig--Andersonville was the worst prison ever!
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08-19-2012, 08:59 AM
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RE: Hellmira! Execution-Retribution-or War Crimes?
I did more research on Camp Ford.Yes,most of the prisioners were from NYCity and had Irish names.I also saw that the Spiegel brothers[Chicago Catalog] were prisoners there.
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03-12-2013, 11:08 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-12-2013 11:10 AM by Gene C.)
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RE: Hellmira! Execution-Retribution-or War Crimes?
(08-17-2012 02:27 PM)Laurie Verge Wrote: Well Herb, your great-grandfather just made me spend my lunch hour searching for the meaning of "shebang." Most of the dictionaries and other sources that I investigated made no mention of it having anything to do with a form of shelter. They refer to it meaning "the whole package" or even the opening something-or-other in the computer field. One source states that the word only dates to 1869. Answer to What is a Shebang? I seem to always find this stuff when I'm looking for something else http://www.dddnews.com/story/1164933.html So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in? |
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03-12-2013, 11:55 AM
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RE: Hellmira! Execution-Retribution-or War Crimes?
Gene,Shebang is by now is an archaic word.Look up Camp Ford-Tyler,Texas.The key is,he made it home!
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03-12-2013, 04:30 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-12-2013 04:36 PM by Bill Richter.)
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RE: Hellmira! Execution-Retribution-or War Crimes?
Craig is correct, shebang was a common Civil War word for a shelter of some sort, usually rigged out materials at hand. I first ran into it in the mid-1950s, I think from MacKinley Kantor's Andersonville. It was used in POW camps on a regular basis, as Herb implies
FYI, There are 74 references to shebang as a prisoners' shack in Kantor's Andersonville |
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03-14-2013, 08:03 AM
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RE: Hellmira! Execution-Retribution-or War Crimes?
Thanks-Bill-Camp Ford-Tyler,Texas describes the Shebang quite well.As does my Great Grandfather's Diary.The prison was not a Hilton Hotel!
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