07-12-2012, 09:05 AM,
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BettyO
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RE: JWB and Fame
(07-12-2012, 08:54 AM)Gene C Wrote: After reading "My Thoughts Be Bloody", I would say that JWB's "lust for fame" played a major part in his thinking and actions on and off the stage. Nora Titone did a good job of telling you about the family. I do not remember her having much good to say about John. His father was a real piece of work too! Alcoholism seems to be a key factor in damaging this whole family. Any idea how prevalent alcholism was during this time period?
I agree, Gene. Titone's book is a good one; especially in looking at John Wilkes' possible problems....granted he probably did have some psychological damage, I think, due to the implications of his father's bigamy as well his and his siblings' illegitimacy, which carried a social stigma in the Victorian era. Yes there was a strong history of drinking problems within the Booth family and it has now been somewhat determined that a tendency towards alcoholism is genetic.
Alcoholism was prevalent in the 19th Century - much akin to what drug use is today. Yes, drug use was also active in the Victorian era as well - but it was misunderstood. The Sons of Temperance (where the term SOT derived from!) as well as other temperance societies were very much in evidence. Anyone could get a drink - even children. There were no laws enforced. The church (particularly during the reformation period of the Great Awakening and the Second Great Awakening) was extremely active in the attempt to deter alcoholism and promote alcohol reform.
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07-12-2012, 09:33 AM,
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RE: JWB and Fame
I agree that Booth's "lust for fame" played a role in the eventual plotting against Lincoln, but I still believe that it was his strong convictions on politics, specifically republicanism (with a little "r") and constitutional rights, that got him so riled up from the very beginning of the Civil War.
As for his proclivity to drink, I don't see him any different than 85% of the men during the 19th century. Partaking of alcohol was prevalent, but that did not always lead to alcoholism - the two are totally different in my mind. I also tend to think that the rate of alcoholism was higher in the lower classes in America. I have often wondered how much of Junius Booth's "alcoholism" was really a streak of insanity coming through which was interpreted as him being an alcoholic.
My great-grandparents, the Huntts, who are a footnote in the assassination story, were temperance people. In those days, the family was part of the burdgeoning Methodist movement in Maryland. They belonged to a temperance group known as the Sons of Jonadab. Their youngest child, my grandmother, would touch nothing but wine to her dying day.
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07-12-2012, 11:19 AM,
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RE: JWB and Fame
I hate when people ask if Booth was an alcoholic because usually they site the one instance that he was seen drinking a quart of brandy in two hours and that he was known to really be able to hold his liquor. As people have already said, attitudes towards drinking were different and I think there was probably a huge difference between Booth's drinking and George's, who said in his statement that Booth had told him to lay off the sauce.
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07-12-2012, 11:24 AM,
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RE: JWB and Fame
(07-12-2012, 11:19 AM)Lindsey Wrote: I hate when people ask if Booth was an alcoholic because usually they site the one instance that he was seen drinking a quart of brandy in two hours and that he was known to really be able to hold his liquor. As people have already said, attitudes towards drinking were different and I think there was probably a huge difference between Booth's drinking and George's, who said in his statement that Booth had told him to lay off the sauce.
It was reported that JWB's father, Junius, had a serious drinking problem - but I wonder, if as Laurie said, that it was a strain of mental illness as opposed to drinking - I remember in one instance, the elder Booth was locked in his dressing room so he would not get "juiced" prior to that night's performance. He had someone buy him some liquor and then a long straw which he was able to put through the keyhole and drink! I don't know if that's insanity or alcoholism - probably a bit of both!
I think that poor ol' George Atzerodt would get what is generally called "sloppy drunk" whereas if JWB imbibed, he could hold his liquor better -
"The Past is a foreign country...they do things differently there" - L. P. Hartley
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