10-02-2014, 01:32 PM,
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RE: Eh Hem: What?
(10-02-2014, 07:53 AM)Rsmyth Wrote: The picture looks more like Alex Trebek sporting his new mustach.
I think you're on to something.
Could Alex Trebek be a reincarnated John Wilkes Booth? I did a Google Image comparison, and it sure looks like it. And Alex is definately a distant relative of JWB, although I have no proof and haven't done a geneology check (that's to hard) so I can't be sure.
http://www.quotessays.com/gallery/alex-t...5.jpg.html
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The page has been removed!!
What a shame, now future readers will have no idea what we've been critical and making fun of. I guess it's all for the best
So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in?
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10-02-2014, 04:04 PM,
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RE: Eh Hem: What?
I received the following email today regarding my post:
Dear John,
I write in response to your comment on Josh Hager’s blog post about an image he found while working in the Rubenstein Library. You are absolutely right, that post never should have been published on the Library’s blog. In the interest of accuracy, we have taken it down and replaced it with another acknowledging our error and setting the record straight. You can read it at http://blogs.library.duke.edu/rubenstein...kes-booth/.
With best regards,
Naomi L. Nelson, Ph.D. ‘88
Associate University Librarian and
Director of the David M. Rubenstein Rare Book & Manuscript Library
Duke University
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10-02-2014, 04:18 PM,
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RE: Eh Hem: What?
Dear Ms. Verge,
Thank you for your substantive response to Josh Hager’s blog post regarding a photograph he found while working in the Rubenstein Library. That post should not have been published on the Library’s blog as written. We should have returned the draft to Josh and helped him locate appropriate sources to test his claim. I feel badly for him that we did not do so.
In the interest of accuracy, we have taken the post down and replaced it with another acknowledging our error and setting the record straight. You can read it at http://blogs.library.duke.edu/rubenstein...kes-booth/.
With best regards
I especially enjoyed a P.S. that she made: "Alex, I'll take Mea Culpa for $1000!"
My response to her: Thank you so much for understanding and being professional in your method of handling the situation. It is greatly appreciated by those of us in the Lincoln field.
Just an FYI: You might enjoy visiting our museum’s website at www.surrattmuseum.org. Have a good evening.
Laurie Verge
Director, Surratt House Museum
Department of Parks & Recreation
The Maryland National Capital Park and Planning Commission
9118 Brandywine Road, Clinton, MD 20735
laurie.verge@pgparks.com/www.pgparks.com
301-868-1121 Fax 301-868-8177
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10-02-2014, 04:40 PM,
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RE: Eh Hem: What?
(10-02-2014, 04:25 PM)John E. Wrote: I wonder if he'll recant his claim tonight. Probably not, but he certainly ruffled the wrong feathers.
He admitted his mistake on Twitter today. I have to say that is very refreshing to see as most people with bad identifications cling to them forever.
https://twitter.com/JoshHagerNC/status/5...8644608000
(10-02-2014, 01:04 PM)L Verge Wrote: Warren, you awakened my sleeping brain. There was another Booth child that I did not take into consideration - the "legal" son from his first marriage to Adelaide. The young man's name was Richard (after his grandfather), but I don't remember whether he married after he came to the U.S. Dave Taylor, or someone, please fill in my gaps.
Laurie,
Richard Junius Booth did marry Sarah P. Ware in 1849. He had at least one son by her, John Baptist Booth. There were also three other young Booths living with them in the 1850 census, but they are probably Sarah's children from a previous marriage. Richard and Sarah moved back to England and they both died there within a month of each other in 1868. The son, John Baptist Booth, had at least four children all of whom immigrated to Australia after his death. One of his daughters died there in 1972 and apparently her descendants are still around, down under. However, from what I have found, it doesn't look like any of Richard Junius Booth's descendants still have the Booth name.
Junius Booth, Jr. actually had four boys by his third wife, Agnes, but two of them died as children. The other two, Junius III and Sydney Barton, married but Junius III murdered his wife and then committed suicide without any heirs. Sydney Barton appears to have had at least one daughter, but I haven't done any significant research on him.
In conclusion, it is highly doubtful that any Booth family descendant would have the Booth name. The last male Booth was Sydney Barton Booth who died in 1937.
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10-02-2014, 05:39 PM,
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Gene C
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RE: Eh Hem: What?
(10-02-2014, 04:04 PM)Dave Taylor Wrote: (10-02-2014, 01:32 PM)Gene C Wrote: The page has been removed!!
What a shame, now future readers will have no idea what we've been critical and making fun of. I guess it's all for the best
Not quite. Nothing on the Internet is ever completely removed: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/se...clnk&gl=us
That should serve as a reminder to all of us (including me). As I tell my grown up children, don't put anything in an email, facebook, or in cyberspace that you wouldn't want seen on a billboard.
Glad the young man acknowledgrd his error. Tough lesson to learn, but he's better off.
I received the email from Dr. Nelson also. Nice that the Library responded so quickly.
So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in?
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10-02-2014, 07:13 PM,
(This post was last modified: 10-02-2014, 07:17 PM by L Verge.)
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RE: Eh Hem: What?
(10-02-2014, 04:40 PM)Dave Taylor Wrote: (10-02-2014, 04:25 PM)John E. Wrote: I wonder if he'll recant his claim tonight. Probably not, but he certainly ruffled the wrong feathers.
He admitted his mistake on Twitter today. I have to say that is very refreshing to see as most people with bad identifications cling to them forever.
https://twitter.com/JoshHagerNC/status/5...8644608000
(10-02-2014, 01:04 PM)L Verge Wrote: Warren, you awakened my sleeping brain. There was another Booth child that I did not take into consideration - the "legal" son from his first marriage to Adelaide. The young man's name was Richard (after his grandfather), but I don't remember whether he married after he came to the U.S. Dave Taylor, or someone, please fill in my gaps.
Laurie,
Richard Junius Booth did marry Sarah P. Ware in 1849. He had at least one son by her, John Baptist Booth. There were also three other young Booths living with them in the 1850 census, but they are probably Sarah's children from a previous marriage. Richard and Sarah moved back to England and they both died there within a month of each other in 1868. The son, John Baptist Booth, had at least four children all of whom immigrated to Australia after his death. One of his daughters died there in 1972 and apparently her descendants are still around, down under. However, from what I have found, it doesn't look like any of Richard Junius Booth's descendants still have the Booth name.
Junius Booth, Jr. actually had four boys by his third wife, Agnes, but two of them died as children. The other two, Junius III and Sydney Barton, married but Junius III murdered his wife and then committed suicide without any heirs. Sydney Barton appears to have had at least one daughter, but I haven't done any significant research on him.
In conclusion, it is highly doubtful that any Booth family descendant would have the Booth name. The last male Booth was Sydney Barton Booth who died in 1937.
Thanks for this, Dave. I must admit that trying to figure out my own family tree is hard enough. I tend to ignore everyone else's. At least you corroborated my thought that there were few lines, if any, that carried the Booth name.
A surname that is tied to the current movement to disinter Edwin to test for DNA is "Hulme." The ones pushing that are here in the states, but the Surratt Society has at least one Australian member named Hulme. I have never ventured into asking if there is a relationship, but do you know if the name ties into the Booth heritage?
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10-03-2014, 08:18 AM,
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Dave Taylor
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RE: Eh Hem: What?
(10-02-2014, 07:13 PM)L Verge Wrote: A surname that is tied to the current movement to disinter Edwin to test for DNA is "Hulme." The ones pushing that are here in the states, but the Surratt Society has at least one Australian member named Hulme. I have never ventured into asking if there is a relationship, but do you know if the name ties into the Booth heritage?
My original post was wrong so here is the correction.
Members of the Hulme family are related to the Booths, but they are not direct descendants of any of the Booth children. Their line descends from Jane Booth, Junius' sister. She married James Mitchell and had several children.
Dr. Joseph Booth's second wife was Cora Estelle Mitchell. She was his first cousin once removed and 30 years his junior. They had a son together, Edwin, but he died at the age of 15 months. All three of them (plus Joe's first wife, Margaret) are buried at the Booth family plot at Green Mount. Some of the outspoken Hulmes like to lay claim to Joe and Cora, but they are not direct descendants as Joe had no heirs.
Not all members of the Hulme family agree with the few misguided members of their family who push for an exhumation of Edwin. I hope that they are so distantly related (1st cousins 4+ times removed by my count) that they will likely never have the legal standing to desecrate the grave of the Booths.
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