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05-16-2014, 05:43 AM,
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RJNorton
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RE: State Box
(05-15-2014, 07:41 PM)L Verge Wrote: I don't ever remember hearing any details as to Taft's entrance other than he was hoisted up. My suspicion would be Portal II only because the area around Portal I would already be congested by the victim, the wife, Dr. Leale, maybe Rathbone, and maybe Clara.
Here is a Library of Congress photo of the State Box. If it be accurate, I agree with Laurie that the area around Portal I would be very congested, and Portal II seems more logical for Dr. Taft's ascent IMO.
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05-16-2014, 09:43 AM,
(This post was last modified: 05-16-2014, 10:26 AM by Gene C.)
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RE: State Box
Thanks for this view Roger. I can see how Booth could have easily have caught his spur on the United States flag, not quite so easily the Treasury Flag in the middle on a pole.
How soon after the assassiantion was the black and white photo of the exterior of the box taken? The next day?
The Treasury Flag is leaning slightly in front of the post dividing the box on the side of Portal I. (you may have to zoom in on the photo to notice it)
If Booth bumped the picture of Washington, then they straightened the frame for the photo. Whatever side of the frame he may have scratched would also be a big clue as to which portal he jumped out of.
If they straightened the frame for the photo, what else could they have adjusted, the flags on the railing?
IMO, if Booth went out Portal I, he likeley went between President Lincoln and Mary. He might have even brushed up against her. How tragic for her to be so close to her husband's murderer.
So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in?
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05-16-2014, 10:15 AM,
(This post was last modified: 05-16-2014, 10:24 AM by J. Beckert.)
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RE: State Box
I believe those flags in the Brady photo were borrowed as the original ones had disappeared by then. The notch cut into the engraving is on the Lincoln's side of the box. It is clearly visible today from the outside of the back of box.
Brady's photo was a staged one. I think, as Ferguson stated, on the 14th., the Treasury Guards flag was not on a pole, but displayed completely opened under the engraving and Booth's spur snagged it as he dropped.
If you stop this at 1:13, there's a close up of the nick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grx1ORG4Fl0
"There are few subjects that ignite more casual, uninformed bigotry and condescension from elites in this nation more than Dixie - Jonah Goldberg"
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05-16-2014, 11:24 AM,
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RE: State Box
When I lived in Connecticut I drove up to Hartford to see the CT Historical Society's exhibit of the flag.
Impressive!
I even bought a t-shirt with a pic of the flag on it
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05-16-2014, 06:48 PM,
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RE: State Box
I've always had a problem with the accuracy of the modern reconstruction of the theater boxes. Having not been able to visit the theater in person, this is based solely on the appearance of the box interior as shown in present-day photographs like the one above. Historians had no design plans for the original theater to work from, relying instead on period photographs and drawings. The most reliable was a scale drawing which was used at the conspiracy trial. But even this did not record exact measurements. Comparing photos of the interior of the restored box with views taken from the stage in 1865, it seems to me the original combination-box was wider across the front. The box interior looks so cramped in modern views, it seems almost impossible you could comfortably seat four adults, then add Booth squeezing between Mrs. Lincoln and the center post, then the doctors and others known to have entered the box, all being careful not to step on the President laying full-length on the floor. Also, I've seen the chairs and sofa used by Harris and Rathbone positioned differently in various views of the modern box. Is it known for certain whether Miss Harris was seated next to the center post with Maj. Rathbone on her right (as I've always believed), or was Rathbone seated, at the end of the sofa, next to the post, with Miss Harris on his right, as suggested in this photo? And why was Rathbone seated on the sofa when there was a fourth chair available?
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