https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/ Fri, 11 Sep 2026 21:21:43 +0000 MyBB https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5184.html Mon, 10 Aug 2026 03:13:14 +0000 Steve]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5184.html
https://capcity.news/history/2026/08/04/...signation/]]>
https://capcity.news/history/2026/08/04/...signation/]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5140.html Sat, 07 Feb 2026 18:49:44 +0000 Rob Wick]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5140.html
"A 217-year-old man has lived through centuries of change, so the most appropriate gifts would honor his history, offer unmatched comfort, or provide deep personal connection, rather than just more "stuff."


Here are the best gift ideas, based on, in some cases, extrapolations from advice for centenarians and history enthusiasts:



1. Personalized & Historical Gifts (Honoring His Time)

Customized Time Capsule/Memory Book: A "My Life Story" journal, or a book documenting major world events that happened during his lifetime.
Historical Letter Subscription: Services like Letterjoy send rare, authentic letters from historical figures (e.g., from the early 1800s).
Framed Historical Map: A map of his birthplace from the year he was born or an early map of a place he loves.
Digitized Family Memories: A digital photo frame, preloaded with thousands of family photos, to act as a window to his past.




2. Comfort & Luxury (Enhancing Daily Life)

Premium Sleep Tech: A smart mattress cover (like Eight Sleep) to regulate temperature, which is often crucial for long-term health and comfort.
Heated Massage Chair or Blanket: To help with joint pain and keep him warm.
High-Quality Sheepskin Slippers: Offering comfort, warmth, and easy access.
Comfortable Reading Gear: A high-quality magnifier or a neck-caddy for books/tablet, and a book light.




3. Experiences (Time > Items)

A "Memory Trip": A trip to a place that held significance in his younger years, arranged with comfortable, accessible transportation.
Intimate Family Concert: A live performance featuring music from his youth (e.g., early 20th-century classical or folk).
Quality Time: A scheduled, quiet, and meaningful afternoon with family, perhaps recording stories to pass down.




4. Health & Wellness (Longevity Focus)

Advanced Diagnostic Membership: A membership to a longevity clinic (like Fountain Life) for proactive health management.
High-End Air Purifier: A HEPA air filter to ensure the cleanest possible air quality.
Nutrient-Dense Food Delivery: A subscription for healthy, easy-to-digest, or gourmet meals.


Summary Recommendation: The best gift is one that shows appreciation for his unique perspective, such as a personalized, handwritten letter book from every descendant or a high-end, customized piece of art reflecting his long life."

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Rob]]>
"A 217-year-old man has lived through centuries of change, so the most appropriate gifts would honor his history, offer unmatched comfort, or provide deep personal connection, rather than just more "stuff."


Here are the best gift ideas, based on, in some cases, extrapolations from advice for centenarians and history enthusiasts:



1. Personalized & Historical Gifts (Honoring His Time)

Customized Time Capsule/Memory Book: A "My Life Story" journal, or a book documenting major world events that happened during his lifetime.
Historical Letter Subscription: Services like Letterjoy send rare, authentic letters from historical figures (e.g., from the early 1800s).
Framed Historical Map: A map of his birthplace from the year he was born or an early map of a place he loves.
Digitized Family Memories: A digital photo frame, preloaded with thousands of family photos, to act as a window to his past.




2. Comfort & Luxury (Enhancing Daily Life)

Premium Sleep Tech: A smart mattress cover (like Eight Sleep) to regulate temperature, which is often crucial for long-term health and comfort.
Heated Massage Chair or Blanket: To help with joint pain and keep him warm.
High-Quality Sheepskin Slippers: Offering comfort, warmth, and easy access.
Comfortable Reading Gear: A high-quality magnifier or a neck-caddy for books/tablet, and a book light.




3. Experiences (Time > Items)

A "Memory Trip": A trip to a place that held significance in his younger years, arranged with comfortable, accessible transportation.
Intimate Family Concert: A live performance featuring music from his youth (e.g., early 20th-century classical or folk).
Quality Time: A scheduled, quiet, and meaningful afternoon with family, perhaps recording stories to pass down.




4. Health & Wellness (Longevity Focus)

Advanced Diagnostic Membership: A membership to a longevity clinic (like Fountain Life) for proactive health management.
High-End Air Purifier: A HEPA air filter to ensure the cleanest possible air quality.
Nutrient-Dense Food Delivery: A subscription for healthy, easy-to-digest, or gourmet meals.


Summary Recommendation: The best gift is one that shows appreciation for his unique perspective, such as a personalized, handwritten letter book from every descendant or a high-end, customized piece of art reflecting his long life."

Best
Rob]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5138.html Sat, 31 Jan 2026 17:37:13 +0000 David Lockmiller]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5138.html
Trump wants to build a 250-foot-tall arch, dwarfing the Lincoln Memorial.

The president is eyeing a plot of land near Memorial Bridge. The art critic who proposed the idea called for a smaller arch or for Trump to pick a new site.

The White House stands about 70 feet tall. The Lincoln Memorial, roughly 100 feet. The triumphal arch President Donald Trump wants to build would eclipse both if he gets his wish.

Trump has grown attached to the idea of a 250-foot-tall structure overlooking the Potomac River, according to two people who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe his comments, a scale that has alarmed some architectural experts who initially supported the idea of an arch but expected a far smaller one.]]>
Trump wants to build a 250-foot-tall arch, dwarfing the Lincoln Memorial.

The president is eyeing a plot of land near Memorial Bridge. The art critic who proposed the idea called for a smaller arch or for Trump to pick a new site.

The White House stands about 70 feet tall. The Lincoln Memorial, roughly 100 feet. The triumphal arch President Donald Trump wants to build would eclipse both if he gets his wish.

Trump has grown attached to the idea of a 250-foot-tall structure overlooking the Potomac River, according to two people who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe his comments, a scale that has alarmed some architectural experts who initially supported the idea of an arch but expected a far smaller one.]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5128.html Sun, 14 Dec 2025 23:49:18 +0000 Linda Anderson]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5128.html
I wonder if that person had heard stories about Lincoln from their father or mother. I also wonder how many other people are still living whose father or someone they knew also voted for Lincoln.]]>
I wonder if that person had heard stories about Lincoln from their father or mother. I also wonder how many other people are still living whose father or someone they knew also voted for Lincoln.]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5123.html Wed, 19 Nov 2025 12:00:40 +0000 Gene C]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5123.html https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democra...h-responds

I know I'm comparing apples and oranges, but
Does any one see any similarities to President Trump's current situation per the above article, and Lincoln's situation with Vallandigham?

Any wisdom for the President on how Lincoln dealt with his problem?
Please keep your response brief and respectful of others.
We are here to learn about and from Lincoln.]]> https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democra...h-responds

I know I'm comparing apples and oranges, but
Does any one see any similarities to President Trump's current situation per the above article, and Lincoln's situation with Vallandigham?

Any wisdom for the President on how Lincoln dealt with his problem?
Please keep your response brief and respectful of others.
We are here to learn about and from Lincoln.]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5122.html Tue, 18 Nov 2025 17:27:02 +0000 David Lockmiller]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5122.html
By Edward Epstein, Washington, D.C., Monday, September 25, 2023

Zelensky paid a whirlwind visit to Washington on Thursday in a bid to bolster support for his country in its protracted and bloody war with Russia. After meeting with President Joe Biden at the White House and with congressional leaders in the Capitol, he went to the National Archives to deliver a speech. Before speaking, he toured the National Archives museum, where he came face to face with a tough-worded telegram that President Abraham Lincoln sent to his commanding general Ulysses S. Grant on August 17, 1864, in the midst of a year of heavy fighting with Confederate forces, from the Wilderness to Cold Harbor to the Crater.

It was a gloomy summer for Union fortunes, leading many -- including Lincoln himself -- to fear that he would lose his re-election bid that November.

Addressed to Lt. Gen. Grant at his City Point, Va., headquarters, the telegram read: "I have seen your dispatch expressing your unwillingness to break your hold where you are. Neither am I willing. Hold on with a bulldog grip and chew & choke, as much as possible."

After his Archives speech, Zelensky posted on X, formerly known as Twitter: "Among the documents I saw today at the National Archives was Abraham Lincoln’s telegram to General Grant. An inspiring document. 'Hold on with a bulldog grip, and chew and choke as much as possible.' President Lincoln’s words reflect the courage and faith that helped America. President Lincoln’s words reflect exactly how Ukrainians fight."

And later he added, "Every day of this war, Ukrainian soldiers hold on with the grip of a bulldog. They chew and choke the Russian occupiers as much as possible."]]>
By Edward Epstein, Washington, D.C., Monday, September 25, 2023

Zelensky paid a whirlwind visit to Washington on Thursday in a bid to bolster support for his country in its protracted and bloody war with Russia. After meeting with President Joe Biden at the White House and with congressional leaders in the Capitol, he went to the National Archives to deliver a speech. Before speaking, he toured the National Archives museum, where he came face to face with a tough-worded telegram that President Abraham Lincoln sent to his commanding general Ulysses S. Grant on August 17, 1864, in the midst of a year of heavy fighting with Confederate forces, from the Wilderness to Cold Harbor to the Crater.

It was a gloomy summer for Union fortunes, leading many -- including Lincoln himself -- to fear that he would lose his re-election bid that November.

Addressed to Lt. Gen. Grant at his City Point, Va., headquarters, the telegram read: "I have seen your dispatch expressing your unwillingness to break your hold where you are. Neither am I willing. Hold on with a bulldog grip and chew & choke, as much as possible."

After his Archives speech, Zelensky posted on X, formerly known as Twitter: "Among the documents I saw today at the National Archives was Abraham Lincoln’s telegram to General Grant. An inspiring document. 'Hold on with a bulldog grip, and chew and choke as much as possible.' President Lincoln’s words reflect the courage and faith that helped America. President Lincoln’s words reflect exactly how Ukrainians fight."

And later he added, "Every day of this war, Ukrainian soldiers hold on with the grip of a bulldog. They chew and choke the Russian occupiers as much as possible."]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5111.html Wed, 15 Oct 2025 15:50:32 +0000 Gene C]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5111.html There are two parts to this Youtube video.

"The First Three-Chapters of this important 1974 Mini-Series - based on Carl Sandburg's six-volume biography "Abraham Lincoln: The Prairie Years" and "Abraham Lincoln: The War Years" -- collectively considered by many to be the best-selling, most widely read, and most influential books about Lincoln. Produced by the legendary David L. Wolper ("Roots"), this groundbreaking portrait follows Abraham Lincoln s life from his early years as a lawyer on the Illinois prairie to his rise in politics, highlighted by the election campaign that led him to the White House.

This is not a typical mini-series, in that its 6 episodes were made and shown over a period of some 20 months between 1974 and 1976. The story of Lincoln's life is also not sequential, and cover Lincoln only from around the time he met Mary Todd until his assassination.

Hal Holbrook - who won an Emmy for Outstanding Lead Actor - also played President Abraham Lincoln in both North & South (1985) mini-series."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQpe5WFtpt8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3vfI_ShlHY

Please share your comments on the videos with us.
Has it held up well over time?]]> There are two parts to this Youtube video.

"The First Three-Chapters of this important 1974 Mini-Series - based on Carl Sandburg's six-volume biography "Abraham Lincoln: The Prairie Years" and "Abraham Lincoln: The War Years" -- collectively considered by many to be the best-selling, most widely read, and most influential books about Lincoln. Produced by the legendary David L. Wolper ("Roots"), this groundbreaking portrait follows Abraham Lincoln s life from his early years as a lawyer on the Illinois prairie to his rise in politics, highlighted by the election campaign that led him to the White House.

This is not a typical mini-series, in that its 6 episodes were made and shown over a period of some 20 months between 1974 and 1976. The story of Lincoln's life is also not sequential, and cover Lincoln only from around the time he met Mary Todd until his assassination.

Hal Holbrook - who won an Emmy for Outstanding Lead Actor - also played President Abraham Lincoln in both North & South (1985) mini-series."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQpe5WFtpt8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3vfI_ShlHY

Please share your comments on the videos with us.
Has it held up well over time?]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5049.html Tue, 08 Apr 2025 02:46:16 +0000 David Lockmiller]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5049.html
Who wrote these words in a letter read by President Lincoln shortly before this man was to be executed upon the order of President Lincoln?]]>
Who wrote these words in a letter read by President Lincoln shortly before this man was to be executed upon the order of President Lincoln?]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5038.html Tue, 04 Mar 2025 16:58:51 +0000 Rob Wick]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5038.html
"Fellow countrymen: at this second appearing to take the oath of the presidential office there is less occasion for an extended address than there was at the first. Then a statement somewhat in detail of a course to be pursued seemed fitting and proper. Now, at the expiration of four years during which public declarations have been constantly called forth on every point and phase of the great contest which still absorbs the attention and engrosses the energies of the nation little that is new could be presented. The progress of our arms, upon which all else chiefly depends is as well known to the public as to myself and it is I trust reasonably satisfactory and encouraging to all. With high hope for the future no prediction in regard to it is ventured.

"On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil war. All dreaded it ~ all sought to avert it. While the inaugural address was being delivered from this place devoted altogether to saving the Union without war insurgent agents were in the city seeking to destroy it without war ~ seeking to dissolve the Union and divide effects by negotiation. Both parties deprecated war but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would accept war rather than let it perish. And the war came.

"One eighth of the whole population were colored slaves not distributed generally over the union but localized in the southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was somehow the cause of the war. To strengthen perpetuate and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union even by war while the government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it. Neither party expected for the war the magnitude or the duration which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with or even before the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces but let us judge not that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered ~ that of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offenses for it must needs be that offenses come but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh." If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which in the providence of God must needs come but which having continued through His appointed time He now wills to remove and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him. Fondly do we hope ~ fervently do we pray ~ that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword as was said three thousand years ago so still it must be said 'the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.'

"With malice toward none with charity for all with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right let us strive on to finish the work we are in to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan ~ to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations."

Ronald White calls this Lincoln's greatest speech, although I, personally, would give that nod to the Gettysburg Address.

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"Fellow countrymen: at this second appearing to take the oath of the presidential office there is less occasion for an extended address than there was at the first. Then a statement somewhat in detail of a course to be pursued seemed fitting and proper. Now, at the expiration of four years during which public declarations have been constantly called forth on every point and phase of the great contest which still absorbs the attention and engrosses the energies of the nation little that is new could be presented. The progress of our arms, upon which all else chiefly depends is as well known to the public as to myself and it is I trust reasonably satisfactory and encouraging to all. With high hope for the future no prediction in regard to it is ventured.

"On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil war. All dreaded it ~ all sought to avert it. While the inaugural address was being delivered from this place devoted altogether to saving the Union without war insurgent agents were in the city seeking to destroy it without war ~ seeking to dissolve the Union and divide effects by negotiation. Both parties deprecated war but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would accept war rather than let it perish. And the war came.

"One eighth of the whole population were colored slaves not distributed generally over the union but localized in the southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was somehow the cause of the war. To strengthen perpetuate and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union even by war while the government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it. Neither party expected for the war the magnitude or the duration which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with or even before the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces but let us judge not that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered ~ that of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offenses for it must needs be that offenses come but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh." If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which in the providence of God must needs come but which having continued through His appointed time He now wills to remove and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him. Fondly do we hope ~ fervently do we pray ~ that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword as was said three thousand years ago so still it must be said 'the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.'

"With malice toward none with charity for all with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right let us strive on to finish the work we are in to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan ~ to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations."

Ronald White calls this Lincoln's greatest speech, although I, personally, would give that nod to the Gettysburg Address.

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Rob]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-4992.html Tue, 17 Sep 2024 14:54:48 +0000 Gene C]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-4992.html guess what happened on this day in history, Sept 27, 1937 ?

https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/this-d...t-rushmore]]> guess what happened on this day in history, Sept 27, 1937 ?

https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/this-d...t-rushmore]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-4976.html Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:38:12 +0000 Rob Wick]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-4976.html
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https://people.com/lover-of-men-abraham-...ve-8675362]]>
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https://people.com/lover-of-men-abraham-...ve-8675362]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-4974.html Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:20:22 +0000 Rob Wick]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-4974.html
Do you remember when I loaned you that $45,000. I need it back. Here's why.

https://alincolnbookshop.com/product/gut...onze-bust/

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Rob]]>
Do you remember when I loaned you that $45,000. I need it back. Here's why.

https://alincolnbookshop.com/product/gut...onze-bust/

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Rob]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-4965.html Mon, 20 May 2024 13:29:34 +0000 Rob Wick]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-4965.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5l1XBL16p0]]>
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5l1XBL16p0]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-4952.html Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:33:48 +0000 David Lockmiller]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-4952.html McCulloch v. Maryland, 17 U.S. 316, 404-405 (1819) and made an interesting discovery for myself. The U.S. Supreme Court's opinion was written by Chief Justice John Marshall:

"[I]n order to form a more perfect union," it was deemed necessary to change this alliance into an effective Government, possessing great and sovereign powers and acting directly on the people, the necessity of referring it to the people, and deriving its powers directly from them, was felt and acknowledged by all. The Government of the Union then (whatever may be the influence of this fact on the case) is, emphatically and truly a Government of the people.(1) In form and substance, it emanates from them.(2) Its powers are granted by them, and are to be exercised directly on them, and for their benefit.(3)]]> McCulloch v. Maryland, 17 U.S. 316, 404-405 (1819) and made an interesting discovery for myself. The U.S. Supreme Court's opinion was written by Chief Justice John Marshall:

"[I]n order to form a more perfect union," it was deemed necessary to change this alliance into an effective Government, possessing great and sovereign powers and acting directly on the people, the necessity of referring it to the people, and deriving its powers directly from them, was felt and acknowledged by all. The Government of the Union then (whatever may be the influence of this fact on the case) is, emphatically and truly a Government of the people.(1) In form and substance, it emanates from them.(2) Its powers are granted by them, and are to be exercised directly on them, and for their benefit.(3)]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-4944.html Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:31:02 +0000 RJNorton]]> https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-4944.html Lincoln Herald has issued a call for submissions:

http://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnHerald100.pdf]]> Lincoln Herald has issued a call for submissions:

http://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnHerald100.pdf]]>