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			<title><![CDATA[Lincoln and The Men of War Times]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 00:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/member.php?action=profile&uid=13">Gene C</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Written by Alexander Kelly McClure, who was a prominent Pennsylvania politician and newspaper editor.  It first appears in 1892.  When it was republished in 1962, three chapters of the original version were left out, Our Unrewarded Heroes, Boarder Life In War Time and The Pennsylvania Reserve Corp. <br />
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McClure seems to over emphasize his involvement in Lincoln's life, but he does acknowledge his limited influence in Lincoln's decision making.  He writes a more sympathizing and defensive view of Buchanan and Cameron than most biographers of Lincoln that I have read, pointing out the limited size and supplies of the federal army at the beginning of the war, and the misunderstanding regarding the passion and determination in the  southern political scene.  <br />
<br />
The book does have its shortcomings.  It is a slightly different perspective of Lincoln's political life in the White House.  McClure does emphasize Lincoln's willingness to listen to those who believe he should act in a more decisive manner but their  persistence wears him out.  Also emphasizes how alone Lincoln feels in this decision making.<br />
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In many of the chapters regarding Lincoln and the certain government and military leaders McClure is weak regarding Lincoln's interaction with them.  <br />
Some of the individual chapter headings are  about Lincoln and Hamlin, Chase, Cameron, Buchanan, Stanton, McClellan,  Grant, Sherman, Curtin, Stevens and Greely.  But nothing on Seward.  I get the opinion that McClure and Seward don't care for each other.  This is due to McClure's effort in keeping Seward from getting the Republican nomination when he was the clear favorite in the beginning.  <br />
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Interesting book in its own way, some of these people McClure knew fairly well, others he had very little personal contact with.  <br />
<br />
Available on Internet Archive and Amazon (with only one review).<br />
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Abraham-Lincoln-War-Times-Recollections-Administration/dp/0803282281/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2REPAQ8R1UK7W&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.fYDsmdzkkXozWKbUCrBVYjmVb_X5CiwtQv8aabN6cyvnbXRYskFlNIe_7QfKNqEj7YN9qKPNlm-tvsoOEQ9vm0Myag1xkpXiLX_KiBIpxcB9SE1Dt2Bh8Oj_UsAJle7IbKr95MQtBRu0YdM-z4ax4FNTKElqJ4K3501OPntErYmwcYTKkfGcAX8a-dWIQhYtlqUtrXJDj0NaZwA308ULI30VvvICJHoacoPvLl-sl2k.ooGxeN66OWvSv5DBEeY6U1wqQ2zCO_ntj-jhU0ZZmfo&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=lincoln+and+men+of+war+times&amp;qid=1779754802&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=lincoln+and+mene+of+war+times%2Cstripbooks%2C525&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/Abraham-Lincoln-W...525&amp;sr=1-1</a><br />
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I purchased my hard bound copy for &#36;9.99 plus s&amp;h.<br />
I give it a "fair" rating.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Written by Alexander Kelly McClure, who was a prominent Pennsylvania politician and newspaper editor.  It first appears in 1892.  When it was republished in 1962, three chapters of the original version were left out, Our Unrewarded Heroes, Boarder Life In War Time and The Pennsylvania Reserve Corp. <br />
<br />
McClure seems to over emphasize his involvement in Lincoln's life, but he does acknowledge his limited influence in Lincoln's decision making.  He writes a more sympathizing and defensive view of Buchanan and Cameron than most biographers of Lincoln that I have read, pointing out the limited size and supplies of the federal army at the beginning of the war, and the misunderstanding regarding the passion and determination in the  southern political scene.  <br />
<br />
The book does have its shortcomings.  It is a slightly different perspective of Lincoln's political life in the White House.  McClure does emphasize Lincoln's willingness to listen to those who believe he should act in a more decisive manner but their  persistence wears him out.  Also emphasizes how alone Lincoln feels in this decision making.<br />
<br />
In many of the chapters regarding Lincoln and the certain government and military leaders McClure is weak regarding Lincoln's interaction with them.  <br />
Some of the individual chapter headings are  about Lincoln and Hamlin, Chase, Cameron, Buchanan, Stanton, McClellan,  Grant, Sherman, Curtin, Stevens and Greely.  But nothing on Seward.  I get the opinion that McClure and Seward don't care for each other.  This is due to McClure's effort in keeping Seward from getting the Republican nomination when he was the clear favorite in the beginning.  <br />
<br />
Interesting book in its own way, some of these people McClure knew fairly well, others he had very little personal contact with.  <br />
<br />
Available on Internet Archive and Amazon (with only one review).<br />
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Abraham-Lincoln-War-Times-Recollections-Administration/dp/0803282281/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2REPAQ8R1UK7W&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.fYDsmdzkkXozWKbUCrBVYjmVb_X5CiwtQv8aabN6cyvnbXRYskFlNIe_7QfKNqEj7YN9qKPNlm-tvsoOEQ9vm0Myag1xkpXiLX_KiBIpxcB9SE1Dt2Bh8Oj_UsAJle7IbKr95MQtBRu0YdM-z4ax4FNTKElqJ4K3501OPntErYmwcYTKkfGcAX8a-dWIQhYtlqUtrXJDj0NaZwA308ULI30VvvICJHoacoPvLl-sl2k.ooGxeN66OWvSv5DBEeY6U1wqQ2zCO_ntj-jhU0ZZmfo&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=lincoln+and+men+of+war+times&amp;qid=1779754802&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=lincoln+and+mene+of+war+times%2Cstripbooks%2C525&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/Abraham-Lincoln-W...525&amp;sr=1-1</a><br />
<br />
I purchased my hard bound copy for &#36;9.99 plus s&amp;h.<br />
I give it a "fair" rating.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[The Trials of Mrs. Lincoln]]></title>
			<link>https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5154.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2026 17:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/member.php?action=profile&uid=13">Gene C</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[by Samuel Schreiner. Published in 1987, with 327 pages.  This book has been mentioned before on the forum.<br />
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I enjoyed this book as most biographies of Mary Lincoln don't spend much space on her life after Lincoln's assassination.  Maybe because most of that time was a very troubling time filled with sorrow, grief and suffering.  Mary lived 17 unhappy years after his death.  <br />
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Her love for Mr. Lincoln is very obvious, and we see how totally lost she is with out him.  Many of her decisions, events and situations, turn out badly for her because he was not there to help and protect her.  In spite of this Schreiner does an excellent job telling how she dealt with the situations she finds herself.  Through her letters we can see and understand why she acted the way she did and how her own family was troubled by her behavior.   They didn't understand her and didn't know quite what to do with her.  To a certain extent they didn't want to take the time to help her until they felt were forced to.  We can see what a determined woman Mary is when she is forced to, she's no dummy, but the tragedies in her life finally overtake her.  <br />
<br />
Schreiner does a good job defending Mary and showing how Robert, overwhelmed with how to take care of her, makes some poor decisions and his actions alienate her for the rest of their lives.  You will see Mary in a much more favorable light.  <br />
<br />
I recommend this book if you have the slightest interest in Mary Lincoln.  You also will get a slightly different look at the Lincoln's relationship and marriage.<br />
<br />
The print is of a good size and it is easy to read.  It flows well, there are a few places where it gets a little detailed and dry.  Later in the book these sections will help fill in the gaps in understanding Mary's "irrational" behavior.    <br />
<br />
The book is available on Internet Archives to borrow.  It helps to read parts of it if you are not sure if you want to purchase your own copy.    <br />
<a href="https://archive.org/details/trialsofmrslinco0000schr/page/n3/mode/2up" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://archive.org/details/trialsofmrsl...3/mode/2up</a><br />
<br />
It's an inexpensive book, and several used copies in very good condition are available for less than &#36;10.  You'll get your moneys worth.  I give 4.5 stars out of 5stars.  <br />
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Trials-Mrs-Lincoln-Samuel-Schreiner/dp/155611009X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2IWAAWEGIFX6K&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ta5JQp9Daa3YQKbCrLMKln7rRyRslf2b8-5HrjWoxa3lb-WGkuNbL36-iY_D-1d698jhgJzdPKncEjjaVMlHhFyKN5axRtvC6It7gWXUtrHMGjRnvBzZnTgVjk8RDP3urNJ0TjlNPb6c6g4qexfB133Yx3TgBAclmbu7RYbDk2gvxG-yfi-I-oTnwe-XGVyUe-8vcan_bMLEKTEF9D4jDLLc9iexOYrOi1QKb7uassU.mu_pxHnhPR4XpPvdh4OQt_eeCsBPAhkCHt1mMBwlztc&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=The+Trials+of+Mrs.+Lincoln&amp;qid=1774109414&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=the+trials+of+mrs.+lincoln%2Cstripbooks%2C378&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/Trials-Mrs-Lincol...378&amp;sr=1-1</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[by Samuel Schreiner. Published in 1987, with 327 pages.  This book has been mentioned before on the forum.<br />
<br />
I enjoyed this book as most biographies of Mary Lincoln don't spend much space on her life after Lincoln's assassination.  Maybe because most of that time was a very troubling time filled with sorrow, grief and suffering.  Mary lived 17 unhappy years after his death.  <br />
<br />
Her love for Mr. Lincoln is very obvious, and we see how totally lost she is with out him.  Many of her decisions, events and situations, turn out badly for her because he was not there to help and protect her.  In spite of this Schreiner does an excellent job telling how she dealt with the situations she finds herself.  Through her letters we can see and understand why she acted the way she did and how her own family was troubled by her behavior.   They didn't understand her and didn't know quite what to do with her.  To a certain extent they didn't want to take the time to help her until they felt were forced to.  We can see what a determined woman Mary is when she is forced to, she's no dummy, but the tragedies in her life finally overtake her.  <br />
<br />
Schreiner does a good job defending Mary and showing how Robert, overwhelmed with how to take care of her, makes some poor decisions and his actions alienate her for the rest of their lives.  You will see Mary in a much more favorable light.  <br />
<br />
I recommend this book if you have the slightest interest in Mary Lincoln.  You also will get a slightly different look at the Lincoln's relationship and marriage.<br />
<br />
The print is of a good size and it is easy to read.  It flows well, there are a few places where it gets a little detailed and dry.  Later in the book these sections will help fill in the gaps in understanding Mary's "irrational" behavior.    <br />
<br />
The book is available on Internet Archives to borrow.  It helps to read parts of it if you are not sure if you want to purchase your own copy.    <br />
<a href="https://archive.org/details/trialsofmrslinco0000schr/page/n3/mode/2up" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://archive.org/details/trialsofmrsl...3/mode/2up</a><br />
<br />
It's an inexpensive book, and several used copies in very good condition are available for less than &#36;10.  You'll get your moneys worth.  I give 4.5 stars out of 5stars.  <br />
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Trials-Mrs-Lincoln-Samuel-Schreiner/dp/155611009X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2IWAAWEGIFX6K&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ta5JQp9Daa3YQKbCrLMKln7rRyRslf2b8-5HrjWoxa3lb-WGkuNbL36-iY_D-1d698jhgJzdPKncEjjaVMlHhFyKN5axRtvC6It7gWXUtrHMGjRnvBzZnTgVjk8RDP3urNJ0TjlNPb6c6g4qexfB133Yx3TgBAclmbu7RYbDk2gvxG-yfi-I-oTnwe-XGVyUe-8vcan_bMLEKTEF9D4jDLLc9iexOYrOi1QKb7uassU.mu_pxHnhPR4XpPvdh4OQt_eeCsBPAhkCHt1mMBwlztc&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=The+Trials+of+Mrs.+Lincoln&amp;qid=1774109414&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=the+trials+of+mrs.+lincoln%2Cstripbooks%2C378&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/Trials-Mrs-Lincol...378&amp;sr=1-1</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Tarbell]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2026 12:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/member.php?action=profile&uid=83">mbgross</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[This is for Mr. Wick and all others who might be interested. In the current edition of the Lincoln Herald (Fall 2025, they run a little behind) there is an article by Stacy Lynn titled "Ida Tarbell's Lincoln". She wrote a wonderful little book last year "Loving Lincoln", mostly about MTL but included a chapter on Tarbell and others and of her own personal Lincoln journey. Everybody already knew this.... but just in case somebody hasn't.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This is for Mr. Wick and all others who might be interested. In the current edition of the Lincoln Herald (Fall 2025, they run a little behind) there is an article by Stacy Lynn titled "Ida Tarbell's Lincoln". She wrote a wonderful little book last year "Loving Lincoln", mostly about MTL but included a chapter on Tarbell and others and of her own personal Lincoln journey. Everybody already knew this.... but just in case somebody hasn't.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Lincoln Prize 2026]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2026 19:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/member.php?action=profile&uid=83">mbgross</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Some time back, I mentioned how much I enjoyed reading Richard Carwardine's recent book, Righteous Strife, and my brief but memorable time with him. I was pleased to see his book win the Lincoln Prize.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Some time back, I mentioned how much I enjoyed reading Richard Carwardine's recent book, Righteous Strife, and my brief but memorable time with him. I was pleased to see his book win the Lincoln Prize.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Lincoln's Frock Coat]]></title>
			<link>https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5147.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2026 17:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/member.php?action=profile&uid=207">ReignetteC</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I am pleased to share that my new book, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Lincoln's Frock Coat: The Enduring Mystery of an Assassination Relic</span> is now available.<br />
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Building on the foundation of my earlier work, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Lincoln’s Greatcoat</span>, this new volume dives into a long-standing historical debate over three black frock coats given away by Mary Lincoln following the assassination. While all three have been historically claimed as the President’s "death raiment," this book seeks to solve the mystery of which garment is the true relic of that fateful night. <br />
<br />
Moving beyond the anecdotal claims of White House servants, this investigation prioritizes the forensic evidence found in the written accounts of the two army surgeons (Leale and Taft) who treated Lincoln at the crime scene. Their professional reports provide the vital clues necessary to identify the garment that bears the physical evidence of the fatal wound.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I am pleased to share that my new book, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Lincoln's Frock Coat: The Enduring Mystery of an Assassination Relic</span> is now available.<br />
<br />
Building on the foundation of my earlier work, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Lincoln’s Greatcoat</span>, this new volume dives into a long-standing historical debate over three black frock coats given away by Mary Lincoln following the assassination. While all three have been historically claimed as the President’s "death raiment," this book seeks to solve the mystery of which garment is the true relic of that fateful night. <br />
<br />
Moving beyond the anecdotal claims of White House servants, this investigation prioritizes the forensic evidence found in the written accounts of the two army surgeons (Leale and Taft) who treated Lincoln at the crime scene. Their professional reports provide the vital clues necessary to identify the garment that bears the physical evidence of the fatal wound.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA["The Sewards of New York"]]></title>
			<link>https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5114.html</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 02:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/member.php?action=profile&uid=3">Linda Anderson</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Forum member Thomas P. Slaughter, director of the Seward Family Digital Archive Project, has published a book on the Seward family. He said in an interview that "the Seward family’s story is really two stories. The first ends in 1860 when William H. Seward fails to receive the Republican Party nomination for President as the family and many others had assumed. The second, which I will tell in a second book, is about the family largely in Washington, D. C. during the Civil War, when there is an attempt to assassinate Seward on the same night that Lincoln is killed and Seward’s wife and daughter die shortly thereafter, victims of the attack on him."<br />
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<a href="https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/digital-history-emotional-truth/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/dig...nal-truth/</a><br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501782657/the-sewards-of-new-york/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/boo...-new-york/</a><br />
<br />
Dr. Slaughter will be giving a talk at the Seward Museum in Auburn, NY on October 23rd.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/SewardHouseMuseum/posts/get-ready-to-learn-some-seward-family-secrets-during-our-next-book-talk-dr-thoma/1372976011498101/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.facebook.com/SewardHouseMuse...011498101/</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Forum member Thomas P. Slaughter, director of the Seward Family Digital Archive Project, has published a book on the Seward family. He said in an interview that "the Seward family’s story is really two stories. The first ends in 1860 when William H. Seward fails to receive the Republican Party nomination for President as the family and many others had assumed. The second, which I will tell in a second book, is about the family largely in Washington, D. C. during the Civil War, when there is an attempt to assassinate Seward on the same night that Lincoln is killed and Seward’s wife and daughter die shortly thereafter, victims of the attack on him."<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/digital-history-emotional-truth/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/dig...nal-truth/</a><br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501782657/the-sewards-of-new-york/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/boo...-new-york/</a><br />
<br />
Dr. Slaughter will be giving a talk at the Seward Museum in Auburn, NY on October 23rd.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/SewardHouseMuseum/posts/get-ready-to-learn-some-seward-family-secrets-during-our-next-book-talk-dr-thoma/1372976011498101/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.facebook.com/SewardHouseMuse...011498101/</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Lincoln In Indiana by J Edward Murr]]></title>
			<link>https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5102.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2025 00:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/member.php?action=profile&uid=13">Gene C</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Written in 1917, this book is a reprint of articles written for The Indiana Magazine Of History.  The book has about 150 pages, the print was a little bit small, making it a little harder to read.<br />
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The Rev. J. Edward Murr (1868–1960) was an early researcher and writer of Abraham Lincoln's youth. Born in Corydon, Indiana, Murr grew up with Lincoln's cousins. He spent two years studying law but ultimately entered DePauw University in 1897 to study theology. Murr served various churches in and around Lincoln's boyhood home in Spencer County, Indiana, and later served as superintendent of the Methodist Church district in that region. He became intimately acquainted with many who had been neighbors and boyhood associates of the future president.<br />
(Combined Academic Publishers)<br />
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Murr did seem to ramble a bit, but all in all it was fairly interesting.<br />
The book is in the Internet Archives - <br />
<a href="https://ia600602.us.archive.org/15/items/lincolninindiana00murr/lincolninindiana00murr_bw.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://ia600602.us.archive.org/15/items...urr_bw.pdf</a><br />
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Some of the interesting statements- <br />
Lincoln never saw a church until he was eleven years of age, and he helped in its erection.   p. 340<br />
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Lincoln and the local Little Pigeon Baptist Church, traveling ministers.<br />
p. 342-345<br />
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Lincoln's first flatboat trip down the Mississippi River (earlier than previously recorded)  p.18 - 20<br />
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Everyday life of Lincoln   p. 30 - 41<br />
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Lincoln's First Sweetheart - recollection of Polly Richardson Agnew    p. 53-57<br />
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Lincoln's Attitude Toward The Church and Religion  p.60-67<br />
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These little known details about Lincoln's life in Indiana from his childhood and teenage years add to a richer understanding of his life experiences that helped shape his character. <br />
<br />
For me, these are just some of the more interesting sections of the book, but there's more you will find interesting.<br />
I bought my copy new from Amazon for &#36;14.<br />
While not the easiest to read due to the print size, if you are interested in Lincoln's early life in Indiana, there are things here you will not find any where else. <br />
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<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Lincoln-Indiana-J-Edward-Murr/dp/1015391729/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2PDG77HW6OZB&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.fG5Ja6w2VSYvNu1okMkCD-Jp8hVWg6BpJ9ElVfoXeTfGjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.Gy4UdoHYHylzkM997C4mi6VLUGyTGwBilEfMDUqXIZE&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=J+edward+murr&amp;qid=1758023265&amp;sprefix=j+edward+murr%2Caps%2C1000&amp;sr=8-2#" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/Lincoln-Indiana-J...00&amp;sr=8-2#</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Written in 1917, this book is a reprint of articles written for The Indiana Magazine Of History.  The book has about 150 pages, the print was a little bit small, making it a little harder to read.<br />
<br />
The Rev. J. Edward Murr (1868–1960) was an early researcher and writer of Abraham Lincoln's youth. Born in Corydon, Indiana, Murr grew up with Lincoln's cousins. He spent two years studying law but ultimately entered DePauw University in 1897 to study theology. Murr served various churches in and around Lincoln's boyhood home in Spencer County, Indiana, and later served as superintendent of the Methodist Church district in that region. He became intimately acquainted with many who had been neighbors and boyhood associates of the future president.<br />
(Combined Academic Publishers)<br />
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Murr did seem to ramble a bit, but all in all it was fairly interesting.<br />
The book is in the Internet Archives - <br />
<a href="https://ia600602.us.archive.org/15/items/lincolninindiana00murr/lincolninindiana00murr_bw.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://ia600602.us.archive.org/15/items...urr_bw.pdf</a><br />
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Some of the interesting statements- <br />
Lincoln never saw a church until he was eleven years of age, and he helped in its erection.   p. 340<br />
<br />
Lincoln and the local Little Pigeon Baptist Church, traveling ministers.<br />
p. 342-345<br />
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Lincoln's first flatboat trip down the Mississippi River (earlier than previously recorded)  p.18 - 20<br />
<br />
Everyday life of Lincoln   p. 30 - 41<br />
<br />
Lincoln's First Sweetheart - recollection of Polly Richardson Agnew    p. 53-57<br />
<br />
Lincoln's Attitude Toward The Church and Religion  p.60-67<br />
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These little known details about Lincoln's life in Indiana from his childhood and teenage years add to a richer understanding of his life experiences that helped shape his character. <br />
<br />
For me, these are just some of the more interesting sections of the book, but there's more you will find interesting.<br />
I bought my copy new from Amazon for &#36;14.<br />
While not the easiest to read due to the print size, if you are interested in Lincoln's early life in Indiana, there are things here you will not find any where else. <br />
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<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Lincoln-Indiana-J-Edward-Murr/dp/1015391729/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2PDG77HW6OZB&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.fG5Ja6w2VSYvNu1okMkCD-Jp8hVWg6BpJ9ElVfoXeTfGjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.Gy4UdoHYHylzkM997C4mi6VLUGyTGwBilEfMDUqXIZE&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=J+edward+murr&amp;qid=1758023265&amp;sprefix=j+edward+murr%2Caps%2C1000&amp;sr=8-2#" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/Lincoln-Indiana-J...00&amp;sr=8-2#</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Lincoln in American Memory]]></title>
			<link>https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5086.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2025 12:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Written by Merrill Peterson, copywrite 1994<br />
Nice sized book at 395 pages of text, and 39 pages of notes.  Peterson has written or edited 37 books, he is well known for his writings/books on Thomas Jefferson.   <br />
<br />
This book is about how Lincoln is presented and perceived over time since his assassination in 1865.  <br />
<br />
It is not a biography on Lincoln or a book focused on certain time periods in his life.  <br />
For those who are deeply interested in Lincoln it is an informative and interesting book.  I am not likely to read cover to cover again, but there are sections (about 75-80%) that I found enjoyable reading and for my interests, highly informative.<br />
<br />
It discusses different approaches used in books, art, movies and theater, etc. to examine the aspects in Lincolns actions, thoughts, philosophy, speeches and experiences of Lincoln's life.  Lincoln's involvement with emancipation and civil rights is also discussed in regards to how they have been viewed over time.   <br />
<br />
There are several book reviews on line.     <br />
Copies are easy to find, and prices vary.  <br />
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Lincoln-American-Memory-Merrill-Peterson/dp/0195096452" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/Lincoln-American-...0195096452</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Written by Merrill Peterson, copywrite 1994<br />
Nice sized book at 395 pages of text, and 39 pages of notes.  Peterson has written or edited 37 books, he is well known for his writings/books on Thomas Jefferson.   <br />
<br />
This book is about how Lincoln is presented and perceived over time since his assassination in 1865.  <br />
<br />
It is not a biography on Lincoln or a book focused on certain time periods in his life.  <br />
For those who are deeply interested in Lincoln it is an informative and interesting book.  I am not likely to read cover to cover again, but there are sections (about 75-80%) that I found enjoyable reading and for my interests, highly informative.<br />
<br />
It discusses different approaches used in books, art, movies and theater, etc. to examine the aspects in Lincolns actions, thoughts, philosophy, speeches and experiences of Lincoln's life.  Lincoln's involvement with emancipation and civil rights is also discussed in regards to how they have been viewed over time.   <br />
<br />
There are several book reviews on line.     <br />
Copies are easy to find, and prices vary.  <br />
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Lincoln-American-Memory-Merrill-Peterson/dp/0195096452" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/Lincoln-American-...0195096452</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[The Black Diamond Disaster]]></title>
			<link>https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5059.html</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2025 15:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[This looks to be interesting:<br />
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<a href="https://thebaynet.com/shipwreck-on-the-potomac-disaster-in-pursuit-of-lincolns-killer-first-ever-book-tells-forgotten-story-of-the-black-diamond-disaster/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://thebaynet.com/shipwreck-on-the-p...-disaster/</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This looks to be interesting:<br />
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<a href="https://thebaynet.com/shipwreck-on-the-potomac-disaster-in-pursuit-of-lincolns-killer-first-ever-book-tells-forgotten-story-of-the-black-diamond-disaster/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://thebaynet.com/shipwreck-on-the-p...-disaster/</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Moonlight - Abraham Lincoln and the Almanac Trial]]></title>
			<link>https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5044.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2025 21:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/member.php?action=profile&uid=13">Gene C</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Written by John Walsh in 2000.  164 pages including Prologue, Appendix A, B and C,<br />
and 28 pages of Notes.  97 pages of text.<br />
<br />
John Walch also wrote The Shadows Rise : Abraham Lincoln and the Ann Rutledge Legend.  That was a good book.   <br />
This one is not so good.<br />
<br />
In his Prolgue, Walsh states on p.2, "...he (Lincoln) did something totally out of character for him, manipulating the truth.  The manipulation certainly involved witness tampering and the suppression of evidence, and may have involved the criminal act of suborning perjury"<br />
<br />
Walsh is quick to point out "...considering how every moment, every utterance of Lincoln's life has become under scrutiny - no one ever bothered to make a full scale investigation (the present volume is the first book devoted to the subject, a surprise in itself)<br />
<br />
A more detailed review of this book by Daniel Stowell titled "Moonlight Offers Little Light" is in the winter 2003 issue of The Journal of the Abraham Lincoln Society<br />
<a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jala/2629860.0024.107/--moonlight-offers-little-light?rgn=main;view=fulltext;q1=Moonlight" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jala/262986...=Moonlight</a><br />
In this  thorough review,  Stowell concludes <br />
"Unfortunately, Walsh's examination of this case fails to capture the significance of the case for Lincoln or for the study of Lincoln's legal career. His careless use of sources and his determination to accuse Lincoln of suppressing evidence, tampering with witnesses, and suborning perjury force him to make unfounded leaps and to ignore competing evidence, resulting in a work of fiction disguised as history. The people's case against William "Duff" Armstrong awaits more careful treatment.<br />
<br />
It also doesn't get the greatest reviews on Amazon<br />
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Moonlight-Abraham-Lincoln-Almanac-Trial-ebook/dp/B00V39P8RC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=26JKEU4SD369M&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.l7nfKF2g_YweTj97-HSGBwnwyG6soNB3Pmv7x_p_HScBb4QMCkmdQisPf9zc8u1kRlgrV949u9do1E9bjvxkrY3rbBQDWIEotaC8_M0eFApYv52C7FWt9_hKLq0L7o9_7qVVLGstFGbWiWO8LPThvR6cN458vEmt97dO_R18EytmG_9R7qCQR3uqvG7InVFLuHXVhVUf33pI5eVBy08UCcg97N63CjY8d6FhvnnAwjk.vx1kKfrf_hqzveaEcIuY8E1AGrB1--1TLz-X-jv_aB4&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=moonlight+abraham+lincoln&amp;qid=1742676926&amp;sprefix=moonligh+abraham+lincoln%2Caps%2C513&amp;sr=8-1#" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/Moonlight-Abraham...13&amp;sr=8-1#</a><br />
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I was disappointed in this book.  Still, it does have it's good points.  There is more background information (some of it conflicting) than you will find in most other books, the print size is very readable, and there are very affordable copies available.  I got mine from ABE Books, like new, for only &#36;6.14]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Written by John Walsh in 2000.  164 pages including Prologue, Appendix A, B and C,<br />
and 28 pages of Notes.  97 pages of text.<br />
<br />
John Walch also wrote The Shadows Rise : Abraham Lincoln and the Ann Rutledge Legend.  That was a good book.   <br />
This one is not so good.<br />
<br />
In his Prolgue, Walsh states on p.2, "...he (Lincoln) did something totally out of character for him, manipulating the truth.  The manipulation certainly involved witness tampering and the suppression of evidence, and may have involved the criminal act of suborning perjury"<br />
<br />
Walsh is quick to point out "...considering how every moment, every utterance of Lincoln's life has become under scrutiny - no one ever bothered to make a full scale investigation (the present volume is the first book devoted to the subject, a surprise in itself)<br />
<br />
A more detailed review of this book by Daniel Stowell titled "Moonlight Offers Little Light" is in the winter 2003 issue of The Journal of the Abraham Lincoln Society<br />
<a href="https://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jala/2629860.0024.107/--moonlight-offers-little-light?rgn=main;view=fulltext;q1=Moonlight" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jala/262986...=Moonlight</a><br />
In this  thorough review,  Stowell concludes <br />
"Unfortunately, Walsh's examination of this case fails to capture the significance of the case for Lincoln or for the study of Lincoln's legal career. His careless use of sources and his determination to accuse Lincoln of suppressing evidence, tampering with witnesses, and suborning perjury force him to make unfounded leaps and to ignore competing evidence, resulting in a work of fiction disguised as history. The people's case against William "Duff" Armstrong awaits more careful treatment.<br />
<br />
It also doesn't get the greatest reviews on Amazon<br />
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Moonlight-Abraham-Lincoln-Almanac-Trial-ebook/dp/B00V39P8RC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=26JKEU4SD369M&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.l7nfKF2g_YweTj97-HSGBwnwyG6soNB3Pmv7x_p_HScBb4QMCkmdQisPf9zc8u1kRlgrV949u9do1E9bjvxkrY3rbBQDWIEotaC8_M0eFApYv52C7FWt9_hKLq0L7o9_7qVVLGstFGbWiWO8LPThvR6cN458vEmt97dO_R18EytmG_9R7qCQR3uqvG7InVFLuHXVhVUf33pI5eVBy08UCcg97N63CjY8d6FhvnnAwjk.vx1kKfrf_hqzveaEcIuY8E1AGrB1--1TLz-X-jv_aB4&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=moonlight+abraham+lincoln&amp;qid=1742676926&amp;sprefix=moonligh+abraham+lincoln%2Caps%2C513&amp;sr=8-1#" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/Moonlight-Abraham...13&amp;sr=8-1#</a><br />
<br />
I was disappointed in this book.  Still, it does have it's good points.  There is more background information (some of it conflicting) than you will find in most other books, the print size is very readable, and there are very affordable copies available.  I got mine from ABE Books, like new, for only &#36;6.14]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Lincoln's Third Secretary by William Stoddard]]></title>
			<link>https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5033.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 22 Feb 2025 12:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/member.php?action=profile&uid=13">Gene C</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[This book is Stoddard's memoirs that have been edited by his son and granddaughter.<br />
It starts with information on his early life, how he became a newspaper editor, was one of the first to support Lincoln for president, his White House years, and ends with the death of Lincoln.<br />
<br />
Stoddard has written over 70 books, many of them for boys.  He was a talented story teller and writer.  Without being over dramatic, he captures Lincoln's personality and what Lincoln was like and experienced, the intense pressure and stress he went through on a day to day basis.   <br />
Also discusses Mrs. Lincoln.  Of Mr. Lincoln's three secretary's, Stoddard gets along better with Mrs. Lincoln than the other 2.     <br />
<br />
Published in 1955 with about 230 pages, this is a honest, personal look at Lincoln during his White House years from someone who saw him, talked and worked with him on a daily basis.<br />
<br />
Available from Amazon and ABE Books<br />
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Lincolns-Third-Secretary-Memoirs-Stoddard/dp/1258033569/ref=sr_1_6?crid=QWM01U4MEP3Z&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.qj0tdq69NlpVoNbzo4wYd7gQyIM7TjxQZlJLjrdW7EKdv5nNkYwTZWVTaPo2Gt6WHi_1Ht_PIfw0tag-P3vF5n25kns5n5lWahFmu8GYlX6c3buVtMtWQtktBDq3pjnFoutWrFQG5XiYpYPjtMLba4g6x6FnOMyt-EAM-Kesvk1LtO9_QYTa_sVwFsZ_vMV_rlTcglse2nms1TiOnL5Fts56W1JZeUOqrJuwSrMvTtM.7uwuBkmO5ciccJXU5taVOpQs7N57sSKtquvGpc7yvjw&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=William+O+Stoddard&amp;qid=1740225802&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=william+o+stoddard%2Cstripbooks%2C783&amp;sr=1-6#" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/Lincolns-Third-Se...83&amp;sr=1-6#</a><br />
<br />
I purchased my very good copy used for &#36;12.  Inexpensive copies (under &#36;20) are hard to find<br />
Easy to read, a very enjoyable book.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This book is Stoddard's memoirs that have been edited by his son and granddaughter.<br />
It starts with information on his early life, how he became a newspaper editor, was one of the first to support Lincoln for president, his White House years, and ends with the death of Lincoln.<br />
<br />
Stoddard has written over 70 books, many of them for boys.  He was a talented story teller and writer.  Without being over dramatic, he captures Lincoln's personality and what Lincoln was like and experienced, the intense pressure and stress he went through on a day to day basis.   <br />
Also discusses Mrs. Lincoln.  Of Mr. Lincoln's three secretary's, Stoddard gets along better with Mrs. Lincoln than the other 2.     <br />
<br />
Published in 1955 with about 230 pages, this is a honest, personal look at Lincoln during his White House years from someone who saw him, talked and worked with him on a daily basis.<br />
<br />
Available from Amazon and ABE Books<br />
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Lincolns-Third-Secretary-Memoirs-Stoddard/dp/1258033569/ref=sr_1_6?crid=QWM01U4MEP3Z&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.qj0tdq69NlpVoNbzo4wYd7gQyIM7TjxQZlJLjrdW7EKdv5nNkYwTZWVTaPo2Gt6WHi_1Ht_PIfw0tag-P3vF5n25kns5n5lWahFmu8GYlX6c3buVtMtWQtktBDq3pjnFoutWrFQG5XiYpYPjtMLba4g6x6FnOMyt-EAM-Kesvk1LtO9_QYTa_sVwFsZ_vMV_rlTcglse2nms1TiOnL5Fts56W1JZeUOqrJuwSrMvTtM.7uwuBkmO5ciccJXU5taVOpQs7N57sSKtquvGpc7yvjw&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=William+O+Stoddard&amp;qid=1740225802&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=william+o+stoddard%2Cstripbooks%2C783&amp;sr=1-6#" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/Lincolns-Third-Se...83&amp;sr=1-6#</a><br />
<br />
I purchased my very good copy used for &#36;12.  Inexpensive copies (under &#36;20) are hard to find<br />
Easy to read, a very enjoyable book.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[The Civil War Art Of Mort Kunstler]]></title>
			<link>https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5035.html</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Feb 2025 00:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/member.php?action=profile&uid=13">Gene C</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[There are several art books by Mort Kunstler, I chose this one because it seemed to have more of his art than most of the other books on Amazon.<br />
<br />
Published by the Greenwich Workshop Press, they have done an excellent job in reproducing his paintings.  Copyright in 2004 with 224 pages and around 175 of his paintings.<br />
<br />
Over half of the paintings are of Confederate scenes, with Stonewall Jackson frequently featured.<br />
<br />
You can find copies available on Amazon and ABE Books.  <br />
I was able to find mine in Very Good Condition for only &#36;17.61 (including taxes and s&amp;h) and yes I frequently get lucky in my some of my book searches. But you can to if you're patient.   <br />
<br />
Amazon book web site - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Civil-War-Art-Mort-Kunstler/dp/0867130911/ref=sr_1_11?crid=1MPOE7127JH2M&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.WGdrZCIoMSI4Ur8GSzXSwKHrJrY9t1XFy81GgrJfy8HjxPf8zGcprEITqVm9xmhcu7dDSf6O0uZCmUuRi3wHCbXMSjLZRgkUR2n1Pz-styoAyr4wiZPoOpqqaGWm9SJ_9PROQgMLY-FmOL7-WFmLSZROfqAP74qIttllnKNsZU2_liEXu4CzziVqCWXo" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/Civil-War-Art-Mor...CzziVqCWXo</a> PEy4A_nYgfNn0F5G2lFtEM2K7uwNTt9QeMSCzp6wDnZ6MD4XWXlhOtmimGxE2fwUQbyfvrqXj_IqHP9iv7F8XevG-i_fTGc6RUwc7Nw7RGNfyGzMFDa6hl4AlRSHPh9zzq71U8cr4xbEnVO28XrA-F-siVBh21mOya3Xp97g6DmWYUM.hbhuAqc3W0M-GtyzyzL7bUCbBtmTYlfNOU1RlnaTijA&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=mort+kunstler&amp;qid=1740004953&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=Mort+%2Cstripbooks%2C726&amp;sr=1-11<br />
<br />
So many great paintings in this book, hard to find my favorite, but this is one of them -  <a href="https://www.amazon.com/2025-Mort-K%C3%BCnstler-Civil-Calendar/dp/B0DDJNPC56" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/2025-Mort-K%C3%BC...B0DDJNPC56</a><br />
(featured in the 2025 calendar- scroll the pictures on the left) <br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">"General Jackson says goodbye to his wife, Mary Anna, who joined him at winter headquarters the winter of 1861-1862 and often brought him a basket of food for supper. Their only child, Julia, was born the following November."</span><br />
<br />
I give this one 5 stars]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[There are several art books by Mort Kunstler, I chose this one because it seemed to have more of his art than most of the other books on Amazon.<br />
<br />
Published by the Greenwich Workshop Press, they have done an excellent job in reproducing his paintings.  Copyright in 2004 with 224 pages and around 175 of his paintings.<br />
<br />
Over half of the paintings are of Confederate scenes, with Stonewall Jackson frequently featured.<br />
<br />
You can find copies available on Amazon and ABE Books.  <br />
I was able to find mine in Very Good Condition for only &#36;17.61 (including taxes and s&amp;h) and yes I frequently get lucky in my some of my book searches. But you can to if you're patient.   <br />
<br />
Amazon book web site - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Civil-War-Art-Mort-Kunstler/dp/0867130911/ref=sr_1_11?crid=1MPOE7127JH2M&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.WGdrZCIoMSI4Ur8GSzXSwKHrJrY9t1XFy81GgrJfy8HjxPf8zGcprEITqVm9xmhcu7dDSf6O0uZCmUuRi3wHCbXMSjLZRgkUR2n1Pz-styoAyr4wiZPoOpqqaGWm9SJ_9PROQgMLY-FmOL7-WFmLSZROfqAP74qIttllnKNsZU2_liEXu4CzziVqCWXo" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/Civil-War-Art-Mor...CzziVqCWXo</a> PEy4A_nYgfNn0F5G2lFtEM2K7uwNTt9QeMSCzp6wDnZ6MD4XWXlhOtmimGxE2fwUQbyfvrqXj_IqHP9iv7F8XevG-i_fTGc6RUwc7Nw7RGNfyGzMFDa6hl4AlRSHPh9zzq71U8cr4xbEnVO28XrA-F-siVBh21mOya3Xp97g6DmWYUM.hbhuAqc3W0M-GtyzyzL7bUCbBtmTYlfNOU1RlnaTijA&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=mort+kunstler&amp;qid=1740004953&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=Mort+%2Cstripbooks%2C726&amp;sr=1-11<br />
<br />
So many great paintings in this book, hard to find my favorite, but this is one of them -  <a href="https://www.amazon.com/2025-Mort-K%C3%BCnstler-Civil-Calendar/dp/B0DDJNPC56" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/2025-Mort-K%C3%BC...B0DDJNPC56</a><br />
(featured in the 2025 calendar- scroll the pictures on the left) <br />
<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">"General Jackson says goodbye to his wife, Mary Anna, who joined him at winter headquarters the winter of 1861-1862 and often brought him a basket of food for supper. Their only child, Julia, was born the following November."</span><br />
<br />
I give this one 5 stars]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Happy Birthday, Dr. Wayne C.Temple]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2025 02:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/member.php?action=profile&uid=479">Thomas Lapsley</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[On February 5, Dr. Wayne C Temple turned 101 years "young", making him the oldest Lincoln scholar. Of the all Lincoln books he has written, which is your favorite?]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Review of "And There Was Light"]]></title>
			<link>https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-5021.html</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2025 17:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/member.php?action=profile&uid=24">Rob Wick</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Jon Meacham, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">And There Was Light: Abraham Lincoln and the American Struggle</span> (New York: Random House, 2022) 676 pp.</span><br />
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I have long been a fan of Jon Meacham's work. Although I don't care for the concept of "presidential historian" (historian suffices as a description), Meacham has written some very good books on various presidents and periods of American history where a president has played a highly-important role. His book, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The Soul of America</span>, is my favorite of his works.<br />
<br />
I was excited when I heard that Meacham was turning his attention to Abraham Lincoln. Marketed as a biography, the book is, in actuality, a meditation on Lincoln's emergence, both intellectual and moral, from his rough-hewn home at the Sinking Springs farm in Kentucky to the backwoods of the Indiana frontier to the point where Lincoln really began to come into his own, the environs of New Salem. Meacham then follows Lincoln on the path to Illinois legislator, United States Representative,  failed U.S. Senate candidate, and finally, to the White House.<br />
<br />
The unifying theme of the book is slavery and race relations. Meacham clearly shows Lincoln's growth throughout the years on the issue of slavery and, unlike many historians and biographers, doesn't whitewash (no pun intended) places where Lincoln fell short of the mark. In Meacham's view, Lincoln is neither a saint nor a sinner. He is, in his entirety, a human being subject to the same foibles and failures that any of us share.<br />
<br />
I have to admit to some ambiguity toward this book. It took me several weeks to finish it, and that had nothing to do with Meacham's style or his arguments. I can't give voice to why I felt the way I did while reading it. For the average reader, Meacham's 421 pages of narrative will likely prove too in-depth, although, for the student of Lincoln, the nearly 200-plus pages of notes and bibliography provide evidence of his intellectual rigor and determination to tell an accurate story.<br />
<br />
In his epilogue, Meacham ties in the preceding pages with the events that took place long after Lincoln's assassination. Noting that America has seemingly fallen short in its attempts to keep Lincoln's vision in place, Meacham doesn't blame Lincoln for dreaming too big but rather blames those who followed for not having dreams that were large enough. Lincoln showed society that a failure to live up to our democratic ideal during the Civil War would have, once and for all, ended the American experiment, which continues to hold true to this day.<br />
<br />
In a trenchant phrase, Meacham writes, "Abraham Lincoln did not bring about heaven on earth. Yet he defended the possibilities of democracy and the pursuit of justice at an hour in which the means of amendment, adjustment, and reform were under assault. What if the constitutional order had failed and the Union had been permanently divided? What would have come next? A durable oligarchical white Southern slave empire, surely strengthened and possibly expanded, would have emerged from the war, and, as Lincoln saw, the viability of popular self-government would have been in ruins." (pg. 419)<br />
<br />
Attempts to deify Lincoln do an injustice to his role in American history and our current society. Discussing the Lincoln memorial, Meacham writes, "If we look closely, though, we see a human face--a weathered Lincoln who gazes out not grandly but whose eyes are inclined slightly downward, looking less into the far distance than at all who come to him."<br />
<br />
Overall, I gave this book three stars out of five. Maybe someday I can figure out why Meacham's book didn't completely resonate with me, but I still would suggest it to students of Lincoln.<br />
<br />
Best<br />
Rob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Jon Meacham, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">And There Was Light: Abraham Lincoln and the American Struggle</span> (New York: Random House, 2022) 676 pp.</span><br />
<br />
I have long been a fan of Jon Meacham's work. Although I don't care for the concept of "presidential historian" (historian suffices as a description), Meacham has written some very good books on various presidents and periods of American history where a president has played a highly-important role. His book, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The Soul of America</span>, is my favorite of his works.<br />
<br />
I was excited when I heard that Meacham was turning his attention to Abraham Lincoln. Marketed as a biography, the book is, in actuality, a meditation on Lincoln's emergence, both intellectual and moral, from his rough-hewn home at the Sinking Springs farm in Kentucky to the backwoods of the Indiana frontier to the point where Lincoln really began to come into his own, the environs of New Salem. Meacham then follows Lincoln on the path to Illinois legislator, United States Representative,  failed U.S. Senate candidate, and finally, to the White House.<br />
<br />
The unifying theme of the book is slavery and race relations. Meacham clearly shows Lincoln's growth throughout the years on the issue of slavery and, unlike many historians and biographers, doesn't whitewash (no pun intended) places where Lincoln fell short of the mark. In Meacham's view, Lincoln is neither a saint nor a sinner. He is, in his entirety, a human being subject to the same foibles and failures that any of us share.<br />
<br />
I have to admit to some ambiguity toward this book. It took me several weeks to finish it, and that had nothing to do with Meacham's style or his arguments. I can't give voice to why I felt the way I did while reading it. For the average reader, Meacham's 421 pages of narrative will likely prove too in-depth, although, for the student of Lincoln, the nearly 200-plus pages of notes and bibliography provide evidence of his intellectual rigor and determination to tell an accurate story.<br />
<br />
In his epilogue, Meacham ties in the preceding pages with the events that took place long after Lincoln's assassination. Noting that America has seemingly fallen short in its attempts to keep Lincoln's vision in place, Meacham doesn't blame Lincoln for dreaming too big but rather blames those who followed for not having dreams that were large enough. Lincoln showed society that a failure to live up to our democratic ideal during the Civil War would have, once and for all, ended the American experiment, which continues to hold true to this day.<br />
<br />
In a trenchant phrase, Meacham writes, "Abraham Lincoln did not bring about heaven on earth. Yet he defended the possibilities of democracy and the pursuit of justice at an hour in which the means of amendment, adjustment, and reform were under assault. What if the constitutional order had failed and the Union had been permanently divided? What would have come next? A durable oligarchical white Southern slave empire, surely strengthened and possibly expanded, would have emerged from the war, and, as Lincoln saw, the viability of popular self-government would have been in ruins." (pg. 419)<br />
<br />
Attempts to deify Lincoln do an injustice to his role in American history and our current society. Discussing the Lincoln memorial, Meacham writes, "If we look closely, though, we see a human face--a weathered Lincoln who gazes out not grandly but whose eyes are inclined slightly downward, looking less into the far distance than at all who come to him."<br />
<br />
Overall, I gave this book three stars out of five. Maybe someday I can figure out why Meacham's book didn't completely resonate with me, but I still would suggest it to students of Lincoln.<br />
<br />
Best<br />
Rob]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Assassination of Abraham Linvoln]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jan 2025 02:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[by Luther b. Baker.  <br />
This is really a booklet (38 pages) of a lecture given by Lieutenant Luther Baker about the pursuit and capture of John Wiles Booth.   The introduction states "To the best of our knowledge this may be the first time the lecture has been reproduced in its entirety and made available to the public." <br />
Historical Society of Greater Lansing - 2015 <br />
<br />
The exact date for this lecture is not known, but there are references to him giving this lecture in April 1892 and again in May 1893. <br />
Not much new here about the pursuit and capture of Booth.   <br />
<br />
Two things that caught my interest<br />
1.  Claim that Abraham Lincoln had giver a pardon to Boston Corbett<br />
It seems Corbett's enlistment was to expire at midnight of a certain date and he was given notice to leave at that time.  However, he was on guard duty at that time so he laid down his rifle and walked away.  He was caught, tried and sentenced to be shot for desertion.  <br />
This incident has been brought up before and this is what we learned<br />
<a href="https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-1495.html?highlight=Boston+Corbett" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussi...on+Corbett</a><br />
<br />
2. In escorting Booth's body back to Washington, Luther Baker commented "I was painfully conscious that I was in an enemy's country with a most important charge on my hands, and that somehow a mistake had been made, separating me from my guard furnished for such an emergency.<br />
 Looking over all the days of my life, I find no other day so full of anxiety , so exhaustive of physical strength and mental endurance."<br />
I think I would have been a little uneasy too.<br />
<br />
I found this on Amazon for &#36;5.40<br />
It was interesting to read this brief account from one who participated in this event.<br />
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Assassination-Abraham-Lincoln-Assassin-Lansinghistory-org/dp/1511535121/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2TNLCXEEXYIPO&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.rHHSbsOjKViWyGaQU5lYh_3iE35VDK8uMaEmir7UzqdPQQdhzr7fTpV2ZaxAAu9awZh4uPTqaDvKlE6EJAv-UYEr_18piOihPG9t5Dbcd5Dz-MKO33dn2jBuLB_6LV5r0NoluBW4VPuM7wX2kXPIIA.lNV7TpiF7euNdSEmB4ACmJDG3W4755bYctYv-1cua60&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=Luther+Byron+Baker&amp;qid=1736561292&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=luther+byron+baker%2Cstripbooks%2C273&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/Assassination-Abr...273&amp;sr=1-1</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[by Luther b. Baker.  <br />
This is really a booklet (38 pages) of a lecture given by Lieutenant Luther Baker about the pursuit and capture of John Wiles Booth.   The introduction states "To the best of our knowledge this may be the first time the lecture has been reproduced in its entirety and made available to the public." <br />
Historical Society of Greater Lansing - 2015 <br />
<br />
The exact date for this lecture is not known, but there are references to him giving this lecture in April 1892 and again in May 1893. <br />
Not much new here about the pursuit and capture of Booth.   <br />
<br />
Two things that caught my interest<br />
1.  Claim that Abraham Lincoln had giver a pardon to Boston Corbett<br />
It seems Corbett's enlistment was to expire at midnight of a certain date and he was given notice to leave at that time.  However, he was on guard duty at that time so he laid down his rifle and walked away.  He was caught, tried and sentenced to be shot for desertion.  <br />
This incident has been brought up before and this is what we learned<br />
<a href="https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-1495.html?highlight=Boston+Corbett" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussi...on+Corbett</a><br />
<br />
2. In escorting Booth's body back to Washington, Luther Baker commented "I was painfully conscious that I was in an enemy's country with a most important charge on my hands, and that somehow a mistake had been made, separating me from my guard furnished for such an emergency.<br />
 Looking over all the days of my life, I find no other day so full of anxiety , so exhaustive of physical strength and mental endurance."<br />
I think I would have been a little uneasy too.<br />
<br />
I found this on Amazon for &#36;5.40<br />
It was interesting to read this brief account from one who participated in this event.<br />
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Assassination-Abraham-Lincoln-Assassin-Lansinghistory-org/dp/1511535121/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2TNLCXEEXYIPO&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.rHHSbsOjKViWyGaQU5lYh_3iE35VDK8uMaEmir7UzqdPQQdhzr7fTpV2ZaxAAu9awZh4uPTqaDvKlE6EJAv-UYEr_18piOihPG9t5Dbcd5Dz-MKO33dn2jBuLB_6LV5r0NoluBW4VPuM7wX2kXPIIA.lNV7TpiF7euNdSEmB4ACmJDG3W4755bYctYv-1cua60&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=Luther+Byron+Baker&amp;qid=1736561292&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=luther+byron+baker%2Cstripbooks%2C273&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.amazon.com/Assassination-Abr...273&amp;sr=1-1</a>]]></content:encoded>
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