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mikegriffith1 · (This post was last modified: 10-25-2018 08:23 PM by mikegriffith1.)

(10-25-2018 06:26 PM)AussieMick Wrote:
(10-25-2018 04:16 PM)mikegriffith1 Wrote:
(10-17-2018 08:10 AM)davg2000 Wrote:
(10-16-2018 07:19 PM)Susan Higginbotham Wrote: And why did the fake Booth not surrender?

Excellent question!

He did try to surrender. He dropped his crutch, dropped his weapon ("arm"), and started walking toward the front door of the barn, as he had been asked to do. This is what Conger said he did. How is that not surrendering? If you drop your weapon and start walking toward the door as you've been asked to do, how is that not surrendering?

By the way, lest anyone think that by "arm" Conger meant the body part, "arm" was a very common synonym back then for gun. In fact, if you read Conger's testimony, you'll see that he used the terms "arm" and "arms" for gun and guns numerous times. If you read the entire trial transcript, you'll find dozens of instances where "arm" and "arms" were used for gun and guns.

Sorry Mike, you cannot simply say 'he did try to surrender'.

Then what do you call it when someone drops their weapon and begins to come to the door, as they have been asked to do? What do you call that? I call it an act of surrender, an act that should protect you from being shot, since you are unarmed and are complying with the request that you come out.

Assuming the man was Boyd or some other Confederate, he would have been very leery about being surrounded by 28 Union soldiers. The believable part of the statements attributed to the man in the barn sound exactly like what such a man would say when suddenly finding himself surrounded by his former enemies.

Corbett could not have fired the shot. The fatal bullet was a rifle bullet, as the damage to the spine makes clear, which is undoubtedly why the bullet was first identified--twice--as a rifle bullet. Plus, the bullet transited the body at a downward angle of 25 degrees above horizontal.

(10-25-2018 01:09 PM)RJNorton Wrote:
(10-24-2018 06:48 PM)mikegriffith1 Wrote: Anyone trying to escape with his life is not going to be carrying around a bunch of evidence that identifies him as the suspect.

If Booth were as obsessed with hiding his true identity as you indicate, then why did he give his real name to Sgt. Silas Cobb when he crossed the Navy Yard Bridge?

How do you know he gave his real name? Just because Cobb said so? If he gave his real name to Cobb, why would he have used a fake name after that? Why would he not have used a fake name at the bridge?

(10-25-2018 08:11 AM)Gene C Wrote:
(10-24-2018 06:48 PM)mikegriffith1 Wrote: Second, as Dr. Arnold notes, the diary could have been planted on the body quite easily, or the planter could have simply pulled it out of his own pocket and claimed that he had just found it on the body.

But we do not really even know if any of the items that were allegedly found on the body were actually on the body at the farm.
They could have been given to one of Lafayette Baker's two henchmen on the search party, Conger or Lt. Baker, ahead of time and simply handed over to the War Department with the claim that they were found on the body. Dr. Arnold suggests that Jett gave these items to Conger when they met shortly before the confrontation at Garrett's farm.

Third, the amount of damning evidence supposedly found on the body is nothing short of amazing, and rather suspicious--too pat, too convenient, too much. Anyone trying to escape with his life is not going to be carrying around a bunch of evidence that identifies him as the suspect. If a suspect is going to shave off his mustache to try to avoid being identified, why in the devil would he carry around a bunch of evidence that identified him?

These two reasons just don't add up.
All your saying is it "could have" happened this way, but you have no facts to back it up.
You even admit, "but we do not even really know"
As for item #3, Booth shaved off his mustache before he made any entries in the diary.
His diary is basically a one man pity party.
Just like a lot of politicians today, he misjudged public reaction.
The shaving of the mustache only has to do with immediate identification.
Instead of being a guy with a mustache and a crutch with a nice spencer carbine,
now he's just a guy with a crutch and a nice spencer carbine.

But, the spencer carbine was probably a plant by union soldiers too.

Here are some "could haves" for you to consider.....
If all your conspiracy theories were true, the soldiers "could have" kept whoever in Garrett's barn, in the barn, when it burned to the ground.
Easier for a vast conspiracy to have the charred remains identified as Booth.
Or "it could have happened" this way,
Lafayette Baker could have really dumped the body found at Garrett's in the Potomac... until they found another body that more resembled Booth
and the body he did bury belonged to some one else.

To much supposition for me. Yours and Dr. Arnold's theories have to many "it could have happened" and 'we don't really know" to carry much weight and be seriously considered.

The traditional story is loaded with suppositions and speculation, much of them quite illogical and contradictory to common sense and human experience.