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Will the real Thomas F. Harney, PLEASE STAND UP!
04-19-2016, 04:56 PM (This post was last modified: 04-19-2016 05:02 PM by SSlater.)
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RE: Will the real Thomas F. Harney, PLEASE STAND UP!
Thank all "youse guys", for adding to this post. I don't have all the answers, but I do have all the questions. Your help is most welcome.
Some more info for you to work with.
The Building West of the White house was once called The State Dept.
Before that it was "State, War and Navy Bldg. constructed in 1871, Before that is was "The War Dept." and Sec Stanton, (no relation TG) hung out in there. From other stories , you know that Lincoln walked from the White House to the War Dept. to get the latest news of the war. We need to review these fact because they impact on our current story.
The means of entry into the white House, for the bombing, was said to be from the "War Dept. end." Where was Lincoln's Office? On the 2nd floor, at the far end of the building.
If Harney was to bring the explosives in at the west end, he had to carry them the full length of the building.- I assume they meant to do that in the basement. (The more "I" plan to "Blow up the White House" the more illogical it becomes.) He couldn't get 30 to 40 people, each carrying up to 30 to 50 pounds of explosives, each, through the basement, in and out, unseen - unheard- without attracting any attention. (without spilling any) I don't buy it.
Actually, Harney never worked on a plan as big as this, as important, or as complicated. He was expert at digging a hole and dropping in a
bomb.
Next I will get to replies to comments and suggestions.
RJN This is only me talking, so I might be very wrong. I won't think less of someone if they don't believe me. That's why we are here.
I think that the plan originated in Richmond. It is possible that at the meeting between Davis and Stringfellow around the 1st of March - at Davis's request, Davis might have said "What can we do?" and Stringfellow said "I'll look'. Stringfellow arrived in D.C. on March 5 and spent the whole month there. (Scouting the White House?) We never learned anything about his task. He left Washington, with Booth's help and went down through MD on the Secret Line. Jones put him across the river.
WE are not really sure what the New York Crowd was responsible for. My first guess, They were the MONEY BAG, for the mission. With that reason, they had the right to "Approve". They would ask "Who will do it?', "will it be effective ?" "How much will it cost?"
Lincoln had more enemies in New York, than we can guess, because of his "control" and "handling" of the cotton market. These guys were making Millions, when wages were in single dollars. Here's a show stopper, it would not surprise me if we learned that Lincoln's Assassination, had nothing to do with the war and was exclusively associated with the New York Crowd making money. They wanted the war to Continue. Who Knows?
Lewis Powell's report of his findings could have started the mission, improved it, or was something completely different. But it would have been approved by New York, and Richmond
WHo came from New York to review the mission, I don't know, but it had to be some kind of a "Committee" that had an interest in the results. It could have been the guy who they wanted him to run the Mission. He said it would work, but he refused to do it. They then called the peon from Richmond to risk his neck.
Wild Bill and Gene. I have never read either book. I have been led to believe, by our fellow Boothies, that it was Hokum! I better read them for myself. Are there any Book-Lenders out there?
Laurie. Yes, the Black Powder could have been stored near-by even if it was only a small supply. Your "access to the water" - do you mean the Potomac? (The White House faces the Washington Monument, the Monument faces the Tidal Basin, and ther is lots of grass in between, I'd say 6 or 7 blocks from the Potomac. (You cant see the Potomac from the White House. Right?
I'm not going to challenge W. Seale (but I would like to talk to him), when was the sewer installed? When the White House was built, they didn't have "inside facilities." Servants carried bed pans'', or other. I have some floor plans of the 1862 White House, and they don't show "Baths". Also, there does not appear to be room for any. We had this discussion some time ago, maybe Roger and add directions to get there.
PS there are floor plans of the White House on Google. There are also new plans (2000 +/-) that show 35 baths.
I'm not getting research done - I gotta quit this s

That was supposed to end with "Small talk'. Leaving it like it was may lead you to believe I meant something else.
PS I don't know if it is a secret - but Laurie is sick and there is some concern. I hope she is fakeing it, she has earned a good rest.
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