Food for Thought

[L Verge]

(08-06-2019 04:05 PM)mike86002000 Wrote:  

(08-06-2019 03:33 PM)L Verge Wrote:  

(08-06-2019 03:16 PM)RJNorton Wrote:  

(08-06-2019 02:33 PM)L Verge Wrote:  Rick Smith found a perfect photo of one, but we can't seem to get it transferred to Roger to post here.

This morning I posted it here.

Thank you so much, Roger. I was afraid that attempt had failed also.

I really think that's just a picture of what someone called a Garibaldi jacket. That's not illegitimate. It's a good picture, You don't claim it's the perfect example, do you? It doesn't particularly resemble anything Garibaldi wore, and probably wasn't intended to. "Garibaldi Jacket" is a loosely used fashion term. There is an "Historical Definition" of a Garibaldi jacket on the internet. It's described as a garment for women or children. The main feature is that it is red. Else where, any "jacket" as a short coat, is said to be unisex.
At the time of Lincoln's assassination, while Garibaldi, or at least his memory, survived, I believe the definition of "Garibaldi Jacket" was a little more precise, at least to the extent that it was red.
Mike

I give up trying to explain this darn jacket!

According to historical data, Surratt himself called his new jacket an Oxford (see previous post) cut that was popular in Canada in 1865. I looked up the Oxford (now called Norfolk) description and it matches the photo that Rick found. Also, have you even considered what you just posted that Garibaldi shirts were worn by women and children, which indicates that men (unless one is a Garibaldi soldier) didn't strut around in bright red jackets/shirts?

This time, I'm sticking with Wikipedia: "Garibaldi's Redshirts
Giuseppe Garibaldi (1807 - 1882) was an Italian folk hero, a nationalist in favor of Italian independence from Austrian domination. Garibaldi's 'total sincerity and honesty, and exceptional physical courage gave him the kind of personal magnetism which made women of all classes love him, and men of all classes follow him in circumstances of acute danger.'[notes 2] During the Expedition of the Thousand campaign in 1860, his volunteer followers were known as 'Redshirts' (Camicie Rosse in Italian) for their uniforms (or rather shirts, as they could not afford full uniforms), and it is these who inspired the fashion.

"The Garibaldi shirt
According to a brief history of the shirt waist written in 1902, the fashion for the Garibaldi shirt was initiated by Empress Eugénie of France.[notes 3] Its first mention is in 1860, and clothing historian says of it: 'The Garibaldi jacket, of scarlet cashmere with military trimmings of gold braid, was hailed as 'the gem of the season'.''notes 4] It was extremely popular during the first half of the 1860s. Versions in white and lighter fabrics also appeared,[notes 5] and children frequently wore it.[notes 6]

"Camicia rossa
'Camicia rossa' or red shirt is a type of clothing. The Century Illustrated monthly magazine, Volume 74 explains that 'One...relic is none other than a veritable camicia rossa, or red shirt, worn by Garibaldi at [a] siege'.[4] A Cultural History of the Modern Age: The Crisis of the European Soul says that 'For a considerable time Garibaldi was the most famous man in Europe, and the red shirt, la camicia rossa, became the fashion for ladies, even outside Italy'"[5]

You can think what you want, and I will think what I want - and the devil can choose.

BTW: Garibaldi lived until June 2, 1882.