Lincoln as secular saint

[Eva Elisabeth]

(06-27-2015 06:04 AM)My Name Is Kate Wrote:  Actually, I was just thinking out loud and did not really expect a reply to my questions, which were prompted by an earlier discussion in this thread.

Well, it's a discussion forum...

For all the following goes - this is my personal opinion and by no means any offense is intended.

Re: "The men who wrote the Scriptures-the apostles-did not agree with you,"
...and IMO there's no need either as this is a matter of personal belief. Thus IMO the saint-title in the Catholic sense can only be awarded by Catholics, and (as it's first of all a Catholic concept) IMO the use of the term should "remain" within the Catholic world.

Re: "The term 'saint' in the Catholic sense of the word does not mean someone is considered perfect" - this is what I found about the explicit Catholic requirements a person must fulfill to become a saint:

The Catholic church recognizes a person a saint who had an exceptional degree of holiness, or likeness to God, and who had dedicated him/herself to God as a saint, proven by either two miracles performed through the saint's intercession after his or her death, or instead of one of the miracles, the acknowledgement that he/she gave his or her life voluntarily as a witness for the faith and/or in an act of heroic charity for others.

Regarding this, when Kate objected the "canonization of secular saints by the media, popular opinion, or whatever," and stated her opinion that "celebrities and such, who are elevated above ordinary folks but hardly deserve such status, for the most part," for my understanding this is also very in line with the Catholic thinking, i.e. a no-go.