Mary's friends
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04-02-2017, 09:13 PM
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RE: Mary's friends
(04-02-2017 08:31 PM)Rob Wick Wrote: Kerry, Those are good points, and it may well have all been made up. I wrote it off at first but Mary was up to so much in that time period (and was clearly so enraged and wanted to be heard) that I come back to it. I agree Robert would not have agreed to it - but during this time, while Mary was certainly grieving, she was also writing tons of letters (some to shape the Lincoln story, such as her comments on the broken engagement, Shields duel, and the age she was when married) and plotting the Old Clothes "scandal" in defiance of Robert's wishes. I definitely agree the articles have a partisan bent and are trying to make the points you suggest. I just think there may have been something to it. And that Robert and some other people did shut it down, but she restarted once in Germany. But now that I look again and see how it was almost exclusively published in the South, I doubt it more. It was published in Pennsylvania, Minnesota, and, weirdly, Australia, as well. Another interesting thing I found was that Weik claimed he saw correspondence going back and forth from Mary and Herndon. Weik claims that one of "Mary's friends" was Herndon - his interpretation may be wrong, but it is interesting that he makes the claim. Maybe they quietly made up: "Outside of her husband and kindred it is fair to assume that Mr. Herndon knew Mrs. Lincoln more thoroughly and comprehended her peculiar construction better than almost any other person in Springfield. The popular notion fathered by numerous writers that the two were hostile to each other and at outs most of the time has no sure foundation on which to rest.That they did not in-variably and completely agree on all subjects is doubtless true, but it does not necessarily follow that they hated each other. In fact the correspondence between them, much of which I have been privileged to read, as well as the many facts I gathered during my association with Mr. Herndon, convince me to the contrary. I cannot, therefore, resist the conclusion, regardless of the things which have found their way into the columns of some of our newspapers and magazines, that Mr. Herndon and Mrs. Lincoln, all things considered, held each other in generous and reasonable esteem." |
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Mary's friends - Donna McCreary - 03-30-2015, 01:22 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Gene C - 03-30-2015, 03:41 PM
RE: Mary's friends - RJNorton - 03-30-2015, 04:09 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Eva Elisabeth - 03-30-2015, 04:57 PM
RE: Mary's friends - LincolnMan - 03-30-2015, 06:43 PM
RE: Mary's friends - L Verge - 03-30-2015, 07:14 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Eva Elisabeth - 03-30-2015, 07:36 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Susan Higginbotham - 03-31-2015, 12:19 PM
RE: Mary's friends - RJNorton - 03-31-2015, 12:50 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Susan Higginbotham - 03-31-2015, 12:56 PM
RE: Mary's friends - LincolnToddFan - 03-31-2015, 01:43 PM
RE: Mary's friends - LincolnToddFan - 03-30-2015, 08:10 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Donna McCreary - 03-30-2015, 09:02 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Gene C - 03-31-2015, 07:11 AM
RE: Mary's friends - RJNorton - 03-31-2015, 07:39 AM
RE: Mary's friends - Donna McCreary - 03-31-2015, 01:03 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Donna McCreary - 08-08-2016, 07:01 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Anita - 04-02-2015, 12:27 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Donna McCreary - 04-07-2015, 02:54 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Anita - 04-07-2015, 04:48 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Donna McCreary - 04-10-2015, 01:27 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Anita - 04-10-2015, 02:53 PM
RE: Mary's friends - LincolnToddFan - 03-30-2015, 10:24 PM
RE: Mary's friends - L Verge - 03-31-2015, 09:15 AM
RE: Mary's friends - Eva Elisabeth - 03-31-2015, 02:45 AM
RE: Mary's friends - LincolnToddFan - 03-31-2015, 09:50 AM
RE: Mary's friends - HerbS - 03-31-2015, 07:47 AM
RE: Mary's friends - RJNorton - 03-31-2015, 01:00 PM
RE: Mary's friends - RJNorton - 03-31-2015, 01:36 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Eva Elisabeth - 03-31-2015, 04:46 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Gene C - 05-12-2016, 08:36 AM
RE: Mary's friends - kerry - 12-20-2016, 01:44 AM
RE: Mary's friends - RJNorton - 12-20-2016, 07:34 AM
RE: Mary's friends - kerry - 12-20-2016, 01:03 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Rob Wick - 12-20-2016, 12:18 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Eva Elisabeth - 12-22-2016, 02:48 PM
RE: Mary's friends - RJNorton - 12-22-2016, 04:44 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Houmes - 12-22-2016, 08:38 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Eva Elisabeth - 12-22-2016, 06:11 PM
RE: Mary's friends - L Verge - 12-22-2016, 06:40 PM
RE: Mary's friends - L Verge - 12-22-2016, 07:11 PM
RE: Mary's friends - kerry - 12-29-2016, 05:56 PM
RE: Mary's friends - HerbS - 12-22-2016, 06:41 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Donna McCreary - 02-25-2017, 01:11 PM
RE: Mary's friends - RJNorton - 02-25-2017, 02:15 PM
RE: Mary's friends - kerry - 02-27-2017, 11:41 PM
RE: Mary's friends - RJNorton - 02-28-2017, 07:31 AM
RE: Mary's friends - Gene C - 02-28-2017, 10:11 AM
RE: Mary's friends - Susan Higginbotham - 02-28-2017, 01:36 PM
RE: Mary's friends - kerry - 02-28-2017, 06:15 PM
RE: Mary's friends - kerry - 03-31-2017, 09:28 PM
RE: Mary's friends - RJNorton - 04-01-2017, 04:11 AM
RE: Mary's friends - Rob Wick - 04-01-2017, 11:32 AM
RE: Mary's friends - kerry - 04-01-2017, 01:02 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Eva Elisabeth - 04-01-2017, 01:09 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Rob Wick - 04-02-2017, 10:03 AM
RE: Mary's friends - kerry - 04-02-2017, 02:50 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Rob Wick - 04-02-2017, 08:31 PM
RE: Mary's friends - kerry - 04-02-2017 09:13 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Eva Elisabeth - 04-04-2017, 03:32 PM
RE: Mary's friends - kerry - 04-04-2017, 10:34 PM
RE: Mary's friends - kerry - 04-06-2017, 06:11 PM
RE: Mary's friends - RJNorton - 04-12-2017, 07:54 AM
RE: Mary's friends - Eva Elisabeth - 04-08-2017, 06:30 AM
RE: Mary's friends - kerry - 04-08-2017, 04:15 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Eva Elisabeth - 04-08-2017, 05:42 PM
RE: Mary's friends - kerry - 04-08-2017, 07:42 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Eva Elisabeth - 04-12-2017, 08:58 AM
RE: Mary's friends - RJNorton - 04-12-2017, 09:16 AM
RE: Mary's friends - RJNorton - 04-12-2017, 03:12 PM
RE: Mary's friends - Eva Elisabeth - 04-12-2017, 04:31 PM
RE: Mary's friends - kerry - 04-12-2017, 10:00 PM
RE: Mary's friends - RJNorton - 04-13-2017, 04:26 AM
RE: Mary's friends - L Verge - 04-13-2017, 08:17 AM
RE: Mary's friends - Leon Greene - 04-13-2017, 11:38 AM
RE: Mary's friends - L Verge - 04-13-2017, 11:52 AM
RE: Mary's friends - RJNorton - 04-15-2017, 09:24 AM
RE: Mary's friends - Eva Elisabeth - 04-15-2017, 04:54 PM
RE: Mary's friends - RJNorton - 04-16-2017, 04:37 AM
RE: Mary's friends - Donna McCreary - 06-20-2017, 09:38 PM
RE: Mary's friends - RJNorton - 06-21-2017, 03:42 AM
RE: Mary's friends - HerbS - 04-16-2017, 07:00 AM
RE: Mary's friends - kerry - 09-22-2017, 12:03 AM
RE: Mary's friends - Steve - 09-22-2017, 02:28 PM
RE: Mary's friends - kerry - 09-22-2017, 03:17 PM
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