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1860 election
03-18-2016, 05:56 PM
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(03-17-2016 06:15 PM)Christine Wrote:  I am just wondering if any of you have seen any published articles or op ed pieces comparing this election to the 1860 one.

Do you think if the Democrats had fielded only one candidate instead of 2 (or some argue 3) they would have taken the White House that year?

(03-17-2016 09:30 PM)Thomas Thorne Wrote:  I have yet to see any comparison between this years' election and 1860.

The idea of an old fashioned open political convention actually deciding who the candidate will be, is fascinating and was the norm during most of our history.

On a purely static analysis, Lincoln would have won a majority of the 1860 electoral vote with only 39% of the popular vote even if Douglas, Breckinridge and Bell's popular vote had been combine.

The political history of the 1850's can be interpreted as how the Democratic Party threw away its majority in the free states by catering to Southern Democrats demands for the expansion of Slavery.

That Stephen Douglas who had carried so much water for the South and his devoted following in the North could be lumped in with the Republicans by Southern Democrats in 1860 is striking. There is evidence that many of Douglas's followers in the Kansas Nebraska fracas subsequently became Republicans after Douglas revolted against Buchanan and the South for their repudiation of Douglas's conception of popular sovereignty.

Tom

Christine and Tom, many thanks to Bill Richter for sending this interesting article.

Christine, regarding your question on whether Lincoln would have won had the Democrats not split, there is an interesting (and perhaps surprising) analysis here.

One of the observations Dr. Hylton makes is:

"While receiving only a plurality of the popular vote, Lincoln nevertheless won a substantial majority in the Electoral College, totaling 180 votes compared to 72 for Breckenridge, 39 for Bell, and only 12 for Douglas.

Although it is often assumed that Lincoln prevailed only because his three opponents split the opposing votes, that was not the case. Because of the way in which Lincoln’s votes were concentrated outside the South, he would have won a majority of votes in the Electoral College even if all of the voters who voted for his three opponents had instead cast their ballots for a single candidate. That candidate would have received 60.3% of the popular vote but would have still lost the Electoral College by a margin of 169 votes to 134."
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1860 election - Christine - 03-17-2016, 06:15 PM
RE: 1860 election - Thomas Thorne - 03-17-2016, 09:30 PM
RE: 1860 election - RJNorton - 03-18-2016 05:56 PM
RE: 1860 election - Gene C - 10-10-2016, 11:07 AM
RE: 1860 election - Angela - 10-11-2016, 12:50 AM
RE: 1860 election - Gene C - 10-17-2016, 08:14 PM

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