The death of Nelson Mandela
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12-20-2013, 07:37 AM
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RE: The death of Nelson Mandela
Well brtmchl, methinks you were given a counter-factual rather than counter-terrorism briefing. First, it seems incredible that Chick-fil-A, a Southern Baptist christian organization would contribute a dime to the Roman church, let alone Catholic terrorists. Perhaps you misheard "I R Gay"? (I mean no offense; C-F-A has been accused of donating to anti gay groups).
As to the second regarding IFP and ANC hostility, that's mostly errant. Xhosa is not a faction of the ANC but is a people. The ANC, which included the majority Xhosa as well as Venda, Indian, English Afrikaners, Sotho, Tswane and so on was not worried they would "lose" the electon of 1994. It was worried that Buthelezi would boycott the election and push Natal into some crazy independence under King Goodwill and in alliance with the Nats (many of whom were happy to see ANC/IFP disagreement). IFP and ANC violence was a mutual struggle over who would rule Natal. (I was just interrupted by an SMS - text - from SABC thanking me for paying my TV license which "made possible the broadcast of Madiba's funeral"). Anyway, 50,000 ZULU dead is outrageously overstated by the instructors of this course. Quote:Waves of serious violence swept through many townships around Johannesburg and in Natal Province, where the rivalry between the Inkatha Freedom Party (IFP) and the African National Congress (ANC) resulted in several hundred--some estimated more than 1,000--deaths each year in the late 1980s and the early 1990s. Officials estimated that 12,000 citizens (and 2,000 SADF troops) were involved in ANC-IFP clashes in the early 1990s.http://www.mongabay.com/history/south_af...lence.html Quote:Inkatha was found to be the foremost perpetrator of gross human rights violations in KwaZulu and Natal during the 1990s. Approximately 9 000 gross human rights violations were perpetrated by Inkatha in KwaZulu and Natal from 1990 to May 1994. This constituted almost 50 per cent of all violations reported to the Commission’s Durban office for this period.http://www.stanford.edu/class/history48q...chap7.html "Some 20,000 lives were lost from both sides during the black-on-black low intensity civil war, and more than 400 Inkatha leaders were systematically assassinated. In contrast, the conflict between white and black claimed some 600 lives" - Mangosuthu Buthelezi, 8 Jan 2012, Message of Support on the occasion of the 100th Anniversary of the ANC It's interesting amongst all the encomiums over Mr. Mandela (who truly made a remarkable difference in 1994 and thereafter) that there is little recognition of a trait he did share with Lincoln - his intense pragmatism and willingess to use extra-legal means to promote his agenda. For example, during the negotiations of 1993/4, IFP loyalists marched on the ANC HQ (which I think was Shell House in Jo'burg at that time) and Mandela gave strict orders that arms were to be provided, the House was to be reinforced and the ANC was to shoot and defend the post against any threat. They were - gunfire broke out and the ANC broke the IFP forces on the streets. Mandela also made sure that FW was well aware that all this "renounce violence" stuff was not on the table and that he was dealing with far more than just a few raggedy-butt Sizwe "soldiers". Mandela is far from the first radical (which he most definitely was) to undergo a transformation in prison or exile. The SACP recently stated that he was, all along, a member of the CP Executive committee, so even Madiba could stretch the truth when he needed to. Whether SA descends into third-world status (which it is a VERY long way from at present) or not, Mandela in power recognised that he had to deal with the realities of capitalism and thus an accommodation took place that must have truly grated on him. Regardless, South Africans universally give him the credit for there being no "massacre" post 1993. And that in itself is a legacy that should and we pray will endure. IMO |
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