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Anyone Familiar with this August 2018 Release?
01-15-2019, 07:15 PM (This post was last modified: 01-15-2019 07:26 PM by L Verge.)
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Anyone Familiar with this August 2018 Release?
Amazon just recommended this to me. Anyone heard about it? While Dr. DiLorenzo appears to have given a review, the book's cover seems to make him a co-author.

LINCOLN AS HE REALLY WAS by Charles T. Pace is a refreshingly truthful antidote to the standard Lincoln mythology. It is refreshing because it is so fact-based and well documented and devoted to historical truth. Lincoln As He Really Was is not your typical boring, voluminous biography filled with thousands of disconnected (and often irrelevant) facts dug up by a dozen graduate research assistants and published by a card-carrying member of the Ivy League Lincoln cult. It is the first book since Edgar Lee Masters’ 1931 classic, Lincoln the Man, to attempt to reveal the truth about what kind of man Abraham Lincoln really was.
— Dr. Thomas J. DiLorenzo, author of The Real Lincoln; Lincoln Unmasked; Hamilton’s Curse; and The Problem With Socialism.

Update - found another site that lists DiLorenzo as the writer of the foreword. Go here for an interesting review - https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/revie...eally-was/
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01-16-2019, 08:27 AM
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I have heard of it, Laurie, and bought it and read it.

Pace is in the anti-Lincoln school of thought. It is best summarized by A. Taft, future U.S. secretary of war (1876), U.S. attorney general (1876-1877), and nineteenth century progenitor of the family that produced a slew of noted Ohio Republican politicians. Taft wrote about the necessities of future history in a letter to his home-state U.S. solon, Senator pro-tem Benjamin Wade, on September 8, 1864:

“It is to be regretted that history should have to tell so many lies as it will tell, when it shall declare Lincoln’s intrigues and foolishness models of integrity and wisdom, his weakened and wavering indecision and delay far-sighted statesmanship, and his blundering usurpation of legislative power Jacksonian courage and Roman patriotism, but one cannot help it. History goes with the powers that be.”

This theme has been in at least 70 articles and numerous books as of 2005 when I spoke of it in 2005, during an Annual Conference, and wrote about it in 2009 in chapter one, “How Did Anakin Skywalker become Darth Vader: The Abraham Lincoln John Wilkes Booth Knew,” in my book, “Sic Semper Tyyrannis.” I discussed Edgar Lee Masters, M.E. Bradford, Lerone Bennett Jr., and Thomas J. Lorenzo, in detail. There have been others like Ira D. Cardiff, and Larry tag to name a few, who wrote in the same vein.

Pace takes Lincoln through his pre-Civil War day to the firing on Ft. Sumter. The others take Lincoln through the war years. I doubt that many who frequent this forum will like to read Pace, et al., and still fewer will admit to their interpretation of Lincoln the man and the president. But being a born Reb I liked it, and recommend it as a different view of our sixteenth president.
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01-16-2019, 10:49 AM
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I always liked what Carl Sandburg said about Edgar Lee Masters after Masters's book came out. He said Masters "holds on to his hates." For an interesting picture of just who Masters was read Herbert K. Russell's Edgar Lee Masters: A Biography.

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01-16-2019, 02:48 PM
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(01-16-2019 08:27 AM)Wild Bill Wrote:  I have heard of it, Laurie, and bought it and read it.

Pace is in the anti-Lincoln school of thought. It is best summarized by A. Taft, future U.S. secretary of war (1876), U.S. attorney general (1876-1877), and nineteenth century progenitor of the family that produced a slew of noted Ohio Republican politicians. Taft wrote about the necessities of future history in a letter to his home-state U.S. solon, Senator pro-tem Benjamin Wade, on September 8, 1864:

“It is to be regretted that history should have to tell so many lies as it will tell, when it shall declare Lincoln’s intrigues and foolishness models of integrity and wisdom, his weakened and wavering indecision and delay far-sighted statesmanship, and his blundering usurpation of legislative power Jacksonian courage and Roman patriotism, but one cannot help it. History goes with the powers that be.”

This theme has been in at least 70 articles and numerous books as of 2005 when I spoke of it in 2005, during an Annual Conference, and wrote about it in 2009 in chapter one, “How Did Anakin Skywalker become Darth Vader: The Abraham Lincoln John Wilkes Booth Knew,” in my book, “Sic Semper Tyyrannis.” I discussed Edgar Lee Masters, M.E. Bradford, Lerone Bennett Jr., and Thomas J. Lorenzo, in detail. There have been others like Ira D. Cardiff, and Larry tag to name a few, who wrote in the same vein.

Pace takes Lincoln through his pre-Civil War day to the firing on Ft. Sumter. The others take Lincoln through the war years. I doubt that many who frequent this forum will like to read Pace, et al., and still fewer will admit to their interpretation of Lincoln the man and the president. But being a born Reb I liked it, and recommend it as a different view of our sixteenth president.

Thanks, Bill. Doubt I will read it because I just don't have time. Never read Bennett or DiLorenzo, but heard them speak and actually agreed with some of their comments. We also had Larry Tagg as a conference speaker a number of years ago. I expected to be run out of town for inviting him, but the audience really liked him (the ones who didn't kept their mouths shut). Again, I believe in hearing both sides of things as long as documented facts are given.
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