What would Lincoln say about the present day elections for President for 2016?
04-20-2016, 06:45 PM,
#31
RE: What would Lincoln say about the present day elections for President for 2016?
I think that we have come to a time in history much like the 1860 election.
"So very difficult a matter is it to trace and find out the truth of anything by history." -- Plutarch
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04-21-2016, 08:27 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-21-2016, 08:29 AM by Wild Bill.)
#32
RE: What would Lincoln say about the present day elections for President for 2016?
In many ways, I agee

I agree, too!
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05-03-2016, 07:27 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-03-2016, 07:29 PM by ELCore.)
#33
RE: What would Lincoln say about the present day elections for President for 2016?
I came across this image on Twitter this morning. A supporter of Sen. Cruz posted it, I guess to indicate that being "mathematically eliminated" (that is, being unable to get enough pledged delegates to win nomination on the first ballot of the convention) is not necessarily determinative.

[Image: ChiCWa5WYAI0WMW.jpg:large]

This is how I replied:

Quote:No primary elections in Lincoln's day. Main purpose of convention was to choose nominee from several viable candidates.

https://twitter.com/OneLaneHwy/status/72...2630589440

I hope I was accurate. Smile
I have endured a great deal of ridicule without much malice; and have received a great deal of kindness, not quite free from ridicule. I am used to it. (Letter to James H. Hackett, November 2, 1863)
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05-03-2016, 08:36 PM,
#34
RE: What would Lincoln say about the present day elections for President for 2016?
(05-03-2016, 07:27 PM)ELCore Wrote: I came across this image on Twitter this morning. A supporter of Sen. Cruz posted it, I guess to indicate that being "mathematically eliminated" (that is, being unable to get enough pledged delegates to win nomination on the first ballot of the convention) is not necessarily determinative.

[Image: ChiCWa5WYAI0WMW.jpg:large]

This is how I replied:

Quote:No primary elections in Lincoln's day. Main purpose of convention was to choose nominee from several viable candidates.

https://twitter.com/OneLaneHwy/status/72...2630589440

I hope I was accurate. Smile

On a personal note - I love your description of yourself! May I borrow the use of "contrarian" for my own personal description? The world today is turning me into one very quickly.
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05-03-2016, 10:54 PM,
#35
RE: What would Lincoln say about the present day elections for President for 2016?
(05-03-2016, 08:36 PM)L Verge Wrote: On a personal note - I love your description of yourself! May I borrow the use of "contrarian" for my own personal description? The world today is turning me into one very quickly.

Sure. Smile
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05-06-2016, 04:38 PM,
#36
RE: What would Lincoln say about the present day elections for President for 2016?
I'm voting for Al Bundy!
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05-22-2016, 04:17 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-22-2016, 04:31 PM by Gencor.)
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RE: What would Lincoln say about the present day elections for President for 2016?
(04-16-2016, 06:44 AM)LincolnMan Wrote: Getting back to the question posed by the title of this thread: would'nt Lincoln have expected a more dignified election season?

Without a doubt. I really believe that what we are seeing today in the way Trump is running is something that would have embarrassed a man like Lincoln. He was always a gentleman and would have never stood for men talking about women the way Trump does. Lincoln's wife, while not always his greatest adviser, was beloved to him and he would have never shown her or any woman the kind of public or private disrespect that Trump has displayed. Lincoln was not an equal opportunity abuser.
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05-22-2016, 05:52 PM,
#38
RE: What would Lincoln say about the present day elections for President for 2016?
I am going to write in-Mickey Mouse!
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05-23-2016, 05:30 AM,
#39
RE: What would Lincoln say about the present day elections for President for 2016?
(05-22-2016, 04:17 PM)Gencor Wrote: Lincoln was not an equal opportunity abuser.

I agree, Genna. Lincoln even supported suffrage for women as early as 1836.
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05-23-2016, 07:21 AM,
#40
RE: What would Lincoln say about the present day elections for President for 2016?
(05-23-2016, 05:30 AM)RJNorton Wrote:
(05-22-2016, 04:17 PM)Gencor Wrote: Lincoln was not an equal opportunity abuser.

I agree, Genna. Lincoln even supported suffrage for women as early as 1836.
...other than his wife who didn't think it a good idea.
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05-23-2016, 11:26 AM,
#41
RE: What would Lincoln say about the present day elections for President for 2016?
(05-23-2016, 07:21 AM)Eva Elisabeth Wrote:
(05-23-2016, 05:30 AM)RJNorton Wrote:
(05-22-2016, 04:17 PM)Gencor Wrote: Lincoln was not an equal opportunity abuser.

I agree, Genna. Lincoln even supported suffrage for women as early as 1836.
...other than his wife who didn't think it a good idea.

Wow! What is the source of this information?
"So very difficult a matter is it to trace and find out the truth of anything by history." -- Plutarch
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05-23-2016, 12:45 PM,
#42
RE: What would Lincoln say about the present day elections for President for 2016?
(05-23-2016, 07:21 AM)Eva Elisabeth Wrote: ...other than his wife who didn't think it a good idea.

(05-23-2016, 11:26 AM)David Lockmiller Wrote: Wow! What is the source of this information?

Jean Baker, in her Mary Lincoln biography, wrote:

"Female abolitionists and suffragists gained no respect from her; she believed them unwomanly creatures. She had no interest in obtaining the vote, intending instead to influence her husband."
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05-23-2016, 06:05 PM,
#43
RE: What would Lincoln say about the present day elections for President for 2016?
Unfortunately there's no o-source footnoted.
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05-23-2016, 07:25 PM,
#44
RE: What would Lincoln say about the present day elections for President for 2016?
At the beginning of the Suffragette movement, most women didn't think it was "Ladylike" to openly show support for the movement. Some women didn't believe in it, even though, during the Civil War and even beyond, women held positions of influence and quietly supported not only the right to vote but also to come out from behind the men and have their own voice. Lincoln always supported women and the movement.
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05-23-2016, 10:01 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-23-2016, 10:01 PM by Gene C.)
#45
RE: What would Lincoln say about the present day elections for President for 2016?
I'm not totally sure, but I think Ruth Painter Randal, in her book, Mary Lincoln Biography of a Marriage, mentions Mrs. Lincoln meeting with a group of ladies who were proponents of the Suffragette movement. Mrs. Lincoln did not agree with their views. Unfortunately the book has no footnotes or index. Any one else recall that?
So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in?
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