A House-Divided

[Eva Elisabeth]

(12-08-2015 07:23 PM)L Verge Wrote:  Eva, if you are referring to racial separation that had to be corrected by laws and statutes, yes, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supposed to correct that. However, there is still racial separation under various guises today, and each race is responsible for perpetuating it. The "guilt" does not fall on just one race or culture.

I will probably have a few cannon balls lobbed at me for repeating something my mother said to me in the early-1960s or before when we were going through the racial turmoils of the 20th century. "Laurie, if God had intended for all men of all races to live together in harmony, he would not have placed them on separate continents to begin with."

Thanks, Laurie. Sorry, cannot hold back that evolution had placed all men in Africa in the beginning...

[Gene C]

Laurie and Bill, you made an important point that I haven't fully appreciated.
I have not lived in the same place all my life, and have not appreciated and have under estimated the loyalty to state and community over loyalty to country that was more prevalent then.

[L Verge]

(12-08-2015 08:10 PM)Eva Elisabeth Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 07:23 PM)L Verge Wrote:  Eva, if you are referring to racial separation that had to be corrected by laws and statutes, yes, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supposed to correct that. However, there is still racial separation under various guises today, and each race is responsible for perpetuating it. The "guilt" does not fall on just one race or culture.

I will probably have a few cannon balls lobbed at me for repeating something my mother said to me in the early-1960s or before when we were going through the racial turmoils of the 20th century. "Laurie, if God had intended for all men of all races to live together in harmony, he would not have placed them on separate continents to begin with."

Thanks, Laurie. Sorry, cannot hold back that evolution had placed all men in Africa in the beginning...

That's assuming you trust Darwin's theory. To a Southern lady, born in 1914, and raised as a staunch Episcopalian, my mother placed more faith in the Bible than in Charles Darwin...

[Gene C]

I'm also one of those who doesn't trust Darwin's theory either.

Genesis 1:27
So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

that kills the evolutionary theory for me

From Genesis 2:7-15
7 Then the Lord God formed a man[c] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
8 Now the Lord God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9 The Lord God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

10 A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters. 11 The name of the first is the Pishon; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12 (The gold of that land is good; aromatic resin[d] and onyx are also there.) 13 The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush.[e] 14 The name of the third river is the Tigris; it runs along the east side of Ashur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.
15 The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.
(from http://www.BibleGateway.com)

the Tigris and Euphrates still exist, and if they flow pretty much in the same area as they did back then, that would put them in what is now Iraq, Syria and Turkey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigris%E2%...ver_system

[Eva Elisabeth]

(12-09-2015 10:40 AM)L Verge Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 08:10 PM)Eva Elisabeth Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 07:23 PM)L Verge Wrote:  Eva, if you are referring to racial separation that had to be corrected by laws and statutes, yes, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supposed to correct that. However, there is still racial separation under various guises today, and each race is responsible for perpetuating it. The "guilt" does not fall on just one race or culture.

I will probably have a few cannon balls lobbed at me for repeating something my mother said to me in the early-1960s or before when we were going through the racial turmoils of the 20th century. "Laurie, if God had intended for all men of all races to live together in harmony, he would not have placed them on separate continents to begin with."

Thanks, Laurie. Sorry, cannot hold back that evolution had placed all men in Africa in the beginning...

That's assuming you trust Darwin's theory. To a Southern lady, born in 1914, and raised as a staunch Episcopalian, my mother placed more faith in the Bible than in Charles Darwin...

I've studied biology...Today's Homo sapiens has developed from Homo erectus in Africa. The other line of Homo erectus, Homo neanderthalienses, that developed in Europe, has ceased (extincted?) 30,000 years ago.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_A...ern_humans
This is what I've studied, and the findings and conclusions make some sense to me. If you ask me what I believe - I don't know. I want to believe that there's a deeper sense or God (and hopefully a good one) beyond everything and everyone than just evolution. I try to do. And the German translation of Shakespeare's Hamlet quote reads: "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than your teachers have taught you."
On some days it's easier than on others however.

[L Verge]

"the Tigris and Euphrates still exist, and if they flow pretty much in the same area as they did back then, that would put them in what is now Iraq, Syria and Turkey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigris%E2%...ver_system "

Interesting, Gene, that just a few weeks ago, a friend and I were discussing the Middle East crises. I used the term "Cradle of Civilization" that I was taught many long years ago -- and suggested that, at the rate we're going, that area could also produce the "Coffin of Civilization."