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RE: Extra Credit Questions - RJNorton - 07-26-2012 08:34 AM

Yet another excellent guess, Joe, but it's not her.

RE: Extra Credit Questions - Craig Hipkins - 07-26-2012 08:46 AM

My second and last guess...Abraham Lincoln's grandfather...Abraham Lincoln

RE: Extra Credit Questions - RJNorton - 07-26-2012 08:56 AM

We have a winner! Kudos, Craig. Just call the hotel, tell them you got this right, and make a reservation for your free night in the Mary Todd Lincoln room in the Equinox Hotel in Manchester!

Ed Steers wrote a book entitled Lincoln - A Pictorial History. It was published in 1993. On pages 10-11 Ed included pictures of 7 generations of Lincoln homesteads. He starts with Samuel Lincoln's home in Hingham, Massachusetts, and continues through the president's home in Springfield.

RE: Extra Credit Questions - J. Beckert - 07-26-2012 09:15 AM

Dang it! I wanted to win that one. Let me know when you're going, Craig. I'll take the couch.

https://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/rutlc-the-equinox-a-luxury-collection-golf-resort-and-spa-vermont/.

RE: Extra Credit Questions - Joe Di Cola - 07-26-2012 01:35 PM

(07-26-2012 08:56 AM)RJNorton Wrote:  We have a winner! Kudos, Craig. Just call the hotel, tell them you got this right, and make a reservation for your free night in the Mary Todd Lincoln room in the Equinox Hotel in Manchester!

Ed Steers wrote a book entitled Lincoln - A Pictorial History. It was published in 1993. On pages 10-11 Ed included pictures of 7 generations of Lincoln homesteads. He starts with Samuel Lincoln's home in Hingham, Massachusetts, and continues through the president's home in Springfield.
(07-26-2012 01:35 PM)Joe Di Cola Wrote:  
(07-26-2012 08:56 AM)RJNorton Wrote:  We have a winner! Kudos, Craig. Just call the hotel, tell them you got this right, and make a reservation for your free night in the Mary Todd Lincoln room in the Equinox Hotel in Manchester!

Ed Steers wrote a book entitled Lincoln - A Pictorial History. It was published in 1993. On pages 10-11 Ed included pictures of 7 generations of Lincoln homesteads. He starts with Samuel Lincoln's home in Hingham, Massachusetts, and continues through the president's home in Springfield.
I have always seen the cabin photo tagged as the cabin of Bersheba Lincoln (Lincoln's grandmother). Did she and Abraham both live here or is it a cabin to which she later moved after Abraham was killed by the Indian?
One other thought--Edward Steers's Lincoln: A Pictorial History was mentioned in a previous post. If you do not have this, BUY IT! So many of the older pictorials, e.g., those by Lorant, are hard to find. Ed Steers has produced a great pictorial and it would be a welcome addition to anyone's collection.

RE: Extra Credit Questions - RJNorton - 07-26-2012 03:46 PM

Hi Joe,

Ed has the caption as "Abraham Lincoln - Long Run Bridge, Jefferson County, Kentucky" Nothing about Bathsheba in the caption.

Here's what I have on Abraham Lincoln's death; seem right to you?

In May, 1786, while Abraham (grandfather of the President), and Abraham's 3 sons, Thomas (father of the President) and his two older brothers, Mordecai and Josiah, were planting corn, they were attacked by Native Americans. Abraham was killed instantly, Josiah ran for help and Mordecai hid in a nearby cabin. Looking out of a crack between the logs, Mordecai saw a Native American sneaking up on Thomas, who was sitting beside his father's body. Mordecai grabbed a rifle and killed the Native American before he could reach the younger boy. The Native American was wearing a silver half moon trinket around his neck and this is what Mordecai used as a target to shoot the Native American. No book I own gives a tribe's name to the Native American. I am afraid that fact is lost to history, although whatever Native American tribes were living in Kentucky at the time would certainly be the chief suspects. The murder of Abraham Lincoln took place at Floyd's Fork in Jefferson County in Kentucky. His grave is most likely within the church yard of the Long Run Baptist Church. After he was killed, his wife, Bathsheba, left the Floyd's Fork farm and moved to Nelson County in the part that later became Washington County.

RE: Extra Credit Questions - Joe Di Cola - 07-26-2012 05:20 PM

Hi, Roger,
The Steers caption is as you indicated and the summary of Lincoln's grandfather's death is spot on. LOve that pictorial history that Ed did--it is really a great job. On the Historical Marker Database (online--and found under the search "Bersheba Lincoln cabin), the structure in question is listed as a replica of the cabin where Bathsheba aka Bersheba raised her 5 children after her spouse was killed. I am just wondering if it is also the location of the cabin where Abraham Lincoln was killed by the Indian. Since Bersheba and Abraham are buried in two different places, could this possibly be the site of another cabin? I would like to have attached pics of what are purported to be the burial plots of Lincoln's grandparents, but see no attachment button.

RE: Extra Credit Questions - Craig Hipkins - 07-26-2012 06:35 PM

(07-26-2012 08:56 AM)RJNorton Wrote:  We have a winner! Kudos, Craig. Just call the hotel, tell them you got this right, and make a reservation for your free night in the Mary Todd Lincoln room in the Equinox Hotel in Manchester!

Ed Steers wrote a book entitled Lincoln - A Pictorial History. It was published in 1993. On pages 10-11 Ed included pictures of 7 generations of Lincoln homesteads. He starts with Samuel Lincoln's home in Hingham, Massachusetts, and continues through the president's home in Springfield.

I finally win one, simply amazing. I'll have to get a copy of that book.

Craig
(07-26-2012 09:15 AM)J. Beckert Wrote:  Dang it! I wanted to win that one. Let me know when you're going, Craig. I'll take the couch.

http://www.equinoxresort.com/

Hey Joe, I would sleep in a chair at that place!

RE: Extra Credit Questions - RJNorton - 07-28-2012 04:31 PM

Who are these two people?

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RE: Extra Credit Questions - Joe Di Cola - 07-28-2012 07:54 PM

This is a long shot and based only on a comparison of the man's face with a photo taken later in life...
is it Charles Dresser and his wife?

RE: Extra Credit Questions - RJNorton - 07-29-2012 05:31 AM

You win, Joe! This is Reverend Charles Dresser and his wife Louisa W. Dresser. Reverend Dresser married the Lincolns in 1842. Then in 1844 the Lincolns bought their Springfield home from the Dressers.

You win one free night in the Lincoln Home. I have arranged this with the National Park Service. All you need to do is call them, tell them you got this question right, and arrange a date for you to sleep in the Lincoln Home for one night.

Wish we had a photo of Abe and Mary posing together like this!

RE: Extra Credit Questions - L Verge - 07-29-2012 12:58 PM

And make sure you get a photo of Joe Di Cola being handcuffed and led off to jail for attempting to sleep in the Lincoln Home for one night...

RE: Extra Credit Questions - Joe Di Cola - 07-29-2012 07:56 PM

I scoured book after book, knowing I had seen that photo before, but could not find it untill late today when I pulled Wayne Temple's BY SQUARE AND COMPASSES... off a top shelf--the photo is there on page 2. The young Rev. Dresser and the older Rev. Dresser resemble one another quite a lot, so I took a chance based on that comparison. Laurie, I do have a photo where I am being pushed out of the Lincoln home--how did you know?!

RE: Extra Credit Questions - L Verge - 07-29-2012 08:01 PM

I didn't! Details, please... As you can guess, I like the criminal element of history.

RE: Extra Credit Questions - Joe Di Cola - 07-29-2012 08:05 PM

(07-29-2012 08:01 PM)L Verge Wrote:  I didn't! Details, please... As you can guess, I like the criminal element of history.