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RE: Who Said This? - Steve - 04-25-2018 06:18 PM

It was Adolphe Pineton, the Marquis de Chambrun, a semi-official French diplomat who said that about Abraham Lincoln.


RE: Who Said This? - AussieMick - 04-25-2018 06:23 PM

It was said about Abraham Lincoln by a French nobleman during the White House years (Lincoln and his world: Prairie Politician 1834-1842, by Richard Lawrence Miller).
Which Frenchman? I dont know. Charles Adolphe Pineton ?


RE: Who Said This? - Susan Higginbotham - 04-25-2018 08:23 PM

Steve is right. It is from a letter the marquis wrote April 16-18, 1865. Chambrun also attended the conspiracy trial and wrote, "Mrs. Surratt is first in line. She seems completely subdued but, from time to time, darts a glance of hatred toward the judges."


RE: Who Said This? - Gene C - 07-03-2018 12:35 PM

Who said this about Mrs. Lincoln?

"She was gifted with a rare insight into the motives that actuate
mankind, and there is no doubt that much of Lincoln's
success was in a measure attributable to her acuteness and
the stimulus of her influence."


RE: Who Said This? - RJNorton - 07-03-2018 12:42 PM

Elizabeth Keckly?


RE: Who Said This? - Gene C - 07-03-2018 03:20 PM

A good answer Roger, however it is incorrect.

At the risk of being politically incorrect
Clue #1 - this person was of a different gender than Ms. Keckly
(can I say that on the internet?)


RE: Who Said This? - RJNorton - 07-03-2018 04:09 PM

OK, Gene. Next guess: Senator Charles Sumner?


RE: Who Said This? - Anita - 07-03-2018 05:06 PM

I think maybe Herndon or someone who knew them both in Springfield like David Davis?


RE: Who Said This? - Gene C - 07-03-2018 07:21 PM

Congratulations Anita!

It was Herndon.
(source - Legends that Liable Lincoln, by Montgomery Lewis, page 176 . His source, Mary Wife of Lincoln, by Katherine Helm)
https://archive.org/stream/legendsthatlibel00lewi#page/n0/mode/2up


RE: Who Said This? - AussieMick - 07-03-2018 09:45 PM

There were numerous people lining up to run as a candidate in the Presidential race in 1860. A joke at the time went along these lines ...

Little Boy to a friend : " Hey, is your pa running for President ?"

Friend replies ... ? What was the punch line?


RE: Who Said This? - L Verge - 07-04-2018 12:29 PM

(07-03-2018 09:45 PM)AussieMick Wrote:  There were numerous people lining up to run as a candidate in the Presidential race in 1860. A joke at the time went along these lines ...

Little Boy to a friend : " Hey, is your pa running for President ?"

Friend replies ... ? What was the punch line?

Today, if they are smart, folks run away from the candidacy due to all the muck that fouls up the waters of good democracy...


RE: Who Said This? - AussieMick - 07-04-2018 05:51 PM

(07-04-2018 12:29 PM)L Verge Wrote:  
(07-03-2018 09:45 PM)AussieMick Wrote:  There were numerous people lining up to run as a candidate in the Presidential race in 1860. A joke at the time went along these lines ...

Little Boy to a friend : " Hey, is your pa running for President ?"

Friend replies ... ? What was the punch line?

Today, if they are smart, folks run away from the candidacy due to all the muck that fouls up the waters of good democracy...

That's close enough, Laurie. Well done.

The punch line I had was this : -

“Guess so. He says he may as well – everybody else is doin’ it.”

Paul F. Boller
Presidential Campaigns: From George Washington to George W. Bush


RE: Who Said This? - Susan Higginbotham - 08-07-2018 08:55 AM

Who said this about Lincoln, and what prompted it?

"God bless [him] and give God the glory for the day of Jubilee has come."


RE: Who Said This? - RJNorton - 08-07-2018 09:09 AM

Sojourner Truth (after the Emancipation Proclamation)?


RE: Who Said This? - Susan Higginbotham - 08-07-2018 09:18 AM

The Emancipation Proclamation part is right.