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RE: Who Said This? - RJNorton - 10-03-2016 10:03 AM

Offhand I cannot think of a revision, but I'll guess FDR for the quote.


RE: Who Said This? - L Verge - 10-03-2016 10:09 AM

I'll guess Churchill?

How about, "Those who cannot learn from history are just plain stupid."


RE: Who Said This? - Gene C - 10-03-2016 10:33 AM

Woops! I misquoted.

Let's try this as the original quote
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

We will reset Rogers and Laurie's incorrect answers, FDR and Churchill did say something similar to the original quote.

First clue, (but only because I made an error in my original post) - Our quotee is not known as being a politician.


RE: Who Said This? - RJNorton - 10-03-2016 10:50 AM

OK, Gene.

My second guess will be John Dewey.


RE: Who Said This? - Gene C - 10-03-2016 11:23 AM

Your getting warmer, but according to WikiQuote, we are looking for someone else.

2nd clue (if necessary) will be posted later this evening.
(Isn't the suspense exciting?)


RE: Who Said This? - STS Lincolnite - 10-03-2016 11:25 AM

(10-03-2016 11:23 AM)Gene C Wrote:  Your getting warmer, but according to WikiQuote, we are looking for someone else.

2nd clue (if necessary) will be posted later this evening.
(Isn't the suspense exciting?)

Voltaire?


RE: Who Said This? - Gene C - 10-03-2016 04:31 PM

I can't wait any longer the suspense is just to much!

Clue #2 - Here is the entire quote
"Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve, and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

This quote was brought to you by (clue #3)
a Philosophy teacher from Harvard


RE: Who Said This? - L Verge - 10-03-2016 06:12 PM

(10-03-2016 04:31 PM)Gene C Wrote:  I can't wait any longer the suspense is just to much!

Clue #2 - Here is the entire quote
"Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve, and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

This quote was brought to you by (clue #3)
a Philosophy teacher from Harvard

Oh dear, I always fell asleep in philosophy class...


RE: Who Said This? - wpbinzel - 10-03-2016 06:21 PM

I do not remember his full name in Spanish, but in English he is generally referred to as George Santayana.


RE: Who Said This? - Gene C - 10-03-2016 07:25 PM

Wow, that's right. I had about six more clues to give, and I still wasn't expecting anyone to know.

Here are a few more of his interesting quotes

"A child educated only at school, is an uneducated child."

"Skepticism, like chastity, should not be relinquished to readily."

"Religion in it's humility restores man to his only dignity, the courage to live by grace."

"Philosophers are as jealous as women. Each wants a monopoly of praise"
(Mr. Santayana was a bachelor which also accounts for this last one)

"When men and women agree, it is only in their conclusions; their reasons are always different."

Your prize is really priceless.
It is the respect and admiration of your friends on the forum. My guess is that it really extends much further.


RE: Who Said This? - wpbinzel - 10-04-2016 01:29 AM

(10-03-2016 07:25 PM)Gene C Wrote:  Your prize is really priceless.
It is the respect and admiration of your friends on the forum. My guess is that it really extends much further.

Wow, Gene. That's the best prize ever!

(I have to confess that the reason I know that is I was a teenager when I first heard the saying and heard it attributed to Santayana. As a youngster, I was fascinated with the story of the Alamo (it probably had something to do with the John Wayne movie). In any event, I was struck by the fact that the man responsible for Davy Crockett's death would make such a profound observation. It wasn't until I was in college that I learned to distinguish between Santa Anna and Santayana. So, I still chuckle when I run across the quote.)


RE: Who Said This? - Gene C - 11-28-2017 02:48 PM

I was reading to Fido, and he insisted that I post this. Who said/wrote this, and for bonus points, what book is it from?

Every one felt the peril of the hour,
but none felt the burden of it like our beloved
President. Nothing kept him from sinking
wholly underneath the load of calumny and
weighty cares that beset him day and night,
but the strong will of the man combined with
his wonderful facility in extracting comfort out
of the pleasant trivialities of every-day life.
Even his little dog Jip was instrumental in
relieving his master of some portion of the
burden, for the little fellow was never absent
from the Presidential lunch. He was always
in Mr. Lincoln's lap to claim his portion first,
and was caressed and petted by him through
the whole meal.


RE: Who Said This? - RJNorton - 11-28-2017 03:30 PM

Francis B. Carpenter? (Six Months at the White House)


RE: Who Said This? - Thomas Kearney - 11-28-2017 03:33 PM

Noah Brooks?


RE: Who Said This? - Steve - 11-28-2017 04:39 PM

It was nurse Rebecca Pomroy and the quote is from the biography published after her death in 1884.