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RE: Who Said This? - AussieMick - 04-28-2024 06:09 PM

Rob , well done ... very well done. More info to come, but my opinion of him ... not a nice man. A hero to some but a racist even for those years.
Irish patriot who escaped from Australia after being transported there, went to New York and caused outrage thru supporting slavery and criticism of clergy.


RE: Who Said This? - RJNorton - 04-28-2024 06:15 PM

Good question Michael. That was a tough one!


RE: Who Said This? - AussieMick - 04-28-2024 06:35 PM

It was indeed a tricky question ... good googling by Rob

I was going to follow the first quote with this
he said Lincoln was 'an ignoramus and a boor' and
' not an apostle at all; no grand reformer; not so much as an abolitionist, except by accident'

https://www.historyireland.com/southern-citizen-john-mitchel-the-confederacy-and-slavery/
(goes on a bit ... suggest scrolling if you bother to access it)

He undoubtedly held strong views, some of which most of us would consider abhorrent. He had though suffered in Ireland and no doubt in Australia. "In his last year, 1875, and while still resident in the United States, Mitchel was elected twice to the British Parliament from Tipperary on a platform of Irish Home Rule, tenant rights and free education."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mitchel


RE: Who Said This? - RJNorton - 06-04-2024 07:18 PM

No googling please.

Who said this about Mary Lincoln?

"I never in my life saw a more peculiarly constituted woman. Search the world over, and you will not find her counterpart."


RE: Who Said This? - Rob Wick - 06-04-2024 07:45 PM

Well, it would have to be someone who had some connection to her or saw her on a regular basis. Could it be Benjamin French?

Best
Rob


RE: Who Said This? - RJNorton - 06-05-2024 05:08 AM

I am sorry, Rob, but it was not French.


RE: Who Said This? - Gene C - 06-05-2024 06:53 AM

William Herndon ?


RE: Who Said This? - RJNorton - 06-05-2024 07:18 AM

I am sorry, Gene, but it was not Herndon.


RE: Who Said This? - AussieMick - 06-05-2024 07:59 AM

General George McClellan?


RE: Who Said This? - RJNorton - 06-05-2024 09:56 AM

Nope, Michael, it wasn't McClellan.

Hint #1: The correct answer is female.


RE: Who Said This? - Steve - 06-05-2024 10:29 AM

Elizabeth Keckley?


RE: Who Said This? - RJNorton - 06-05-2024 11:26 AM

Right on, Steve. Indeed it was Elizabeth Keckly.