(10-05-2019 09:46 PM)L Verge Wrote:  

(10-05-2019 09:27 PM)Susan Higginbotham Wrote:  

(10-05-2019 09:15 PM)L Verge Wrote:  

(10-05-2019 09:02 PM)Susan Higginbotham Wrote:  Is it possible that the photo has been misdated and mislabeled, and the man resembles Beveridge because he actually IS Beveridge? There is a photo of a woman I am currently researching that is generally identified as being taken in 1859, but I always had my doubts, because the woman's hairstyle, dress, and apparent age all pointed to a later date. One day I was browsing on Ancestry and saw the photo from which all of the published copies are taken, and my suspicions were confirmed--the woman was holding her two oldest children, which have been obscured in the published versions, which meant that it could not have been taken before the early 1870s.

I think we both may have been posting at the same time, Susan. Did you get a chance to see my very last post about Miss Eddy's formal attire as a debutante being presented at a royal court? That seems to confirm the date of the photo at least.

Yes, we did cross-post! The veil, etc. do seem consistent with the ones mentioned in the piece you linked to.

Rob, you have created a whole new learning experience for me. Members, here's another link detailing court presentations under Victoria and later: http://www.edwardianpromenade.com/etiquette/the-court-presentation/

I got fascinated with the references to the headpiece being ostrich feathers and got a lesson on that. Those poor ostriches were being killed for their feathers for quite some time before farmers started raising them and plucking instead of killing. And, those feathers were used for fans and other adornments well into the 1900s -- remember those burlesque queens who hid certain parts behind those huge ostrich feathers?

AussieMick - how many ostriches still remain in Australia? During the 19th century, many of those birds and feathers came from your Land Down Under.

One more note: Many of us have heard of and seen photos and drawings of jewelry and other items fashioned as the "Prince of Wales Feathers." Later forms of hair jewelry were especially popular in that design -- one high feather in the center and two shorter ones flanking it; the hair jewelry has "plumes" of hair mocking the feather.

I am now onto checking about the "levee," a term that is kin to court presentations and one that is often used in reference to the Lincolns' White House. Did Mary mimic Victoria's courts?

(10-07-2019 04:16 PM)Rob Wick Wrote:  

Who is this gentleman. First clue: He has nothing to do with ostriches.

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Rob