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RE: The Donald P. Dow Collection of Lincolniana Auction (1/24/2015) - BettyO - 01-24-2015 03:02 PM

Great, thanks, Dave! Do let us know when the assassination stuff comes on - I will watch alsol


RE: The Donald P. Dow Collection of Lincolniana Auction (1/24/2015) - Gene C - 01-24-2015 05:46 PM

To rich for my blood. I'm sticking with old books, antique stores and flea market finds

My latest cheap find, a copy of "Tad and His Father" by F Lauriston Bullard, copyright 1915, 100 pages, for $2


RE: The Donald P. Dow Collection of Lincolniana Auction (1/24/2015) - ReignetteC - 01-24-2015 07:22 PM

(12-17-2014 07:20 AM)BettyO Wrote:  I own this Derringer; the Denix Replicas 1018G Nickel Silver Baby Philadelphia Derringer Replica. Doesn't shoot but is pretty impressive -

Quote:Practically all of the lots have images now.

Sadly, I don't think this is an unpublished photograph of Dr. Mudd:

Likewise, the image of Mrs. Surratt in the Conspirators Photo Album is also spurious - I noticed that the one of Dr Mudd is not correct as well.... I've seen this purported Surratt CDV many times - it's definitely not her!



http://historical.ha.com/itm/photography/-abraham-lincoln-assassination-conspirators-photograph-album/p/6128-11264.s

Betty,
Yet, someone paid a cool $5750 for the album. Perhaps the buyer should have consulted you. (The auction realized 800K+.)


RE: The Donald P. Dow Collection of Lincolniana Auction (1/24/2015) - Gene C - 01-24-2015 08:50 PM

A 25% buyers premium (per Dave@BoothieBarn twitter page) seems high to me, especially since some of the photos mentioned are spurious.

In comparison, most real estate auctions around here (western KY) get a 10% buyers premium (the auction price plus 10%)
The last antique/estate auction I went to (several years ago) didn't charge a buyers premium. The auctioneer collected a commission from the seller on the total sales amount. I guess these fancy auction houses do it differently,
http://www.skinnerinc.com/news/blog/auction-fees-consigning-to-auction-part-iv/


RE: The Donald P. Dow Collection of Lincolniana Auction (1/24/2015) - BettyO - 01-25-2015 12:32 PM

Quote:Yet, someone paid a cool $5750 for the album.

Way out of my league! Must be nice to have the $$.....


Lincoln memmoribilia Sold at Auction - GARY POPOLO - 01-25-2015 06:33 PM

Well I hope some of you saw the going price for a small piece of Mr. Lincoln's hair. Other items sold: A letter on Mary Todd Lincoln's mourning stationary, Photographs and autographs from Lincoln, Booth and Boston Corbett. A 1864 letter signed by Lincoln authorizing a prisoner of war swap involving General Lee's son. A letter written by Booth to a friend. Lastly a clipping of bed linen from Lincoln's death bed soaked with Lincoln's blood. Boy would I at least loved to see these items let alone be able to own them. Total price paid $803,889. Someone is a very happy person today.


RE: The Donald P. Dow Collection of Lincolniana Auction (1/24/2015) - Jim Garrett - 01-25-2015 07:48 PM

(01-24-2015 08:50 PM)Gene C Wrote:  A 25% buyers premium (per Dave@BoothieBarn twitter page) seems high to me, especially since some of the photos mentioned are spurious.

In comparison, most real estate auctions around here (western KY) get a 10% buyers premium (the auction price plus 10%)
The last antique/estate auction I went to (several years ago) didn't charge a buyers premium. The auctioneer collected a commission from the seller on the total sales amount. I guess these fancy auction houses do it differently,
http://www.skinnerinc.com/news/blog/auction-fees-consigning-to-auction-part-iv/
A buyer's premium in an auction like this will usually run anywhere from 20% to 25%. I've seen some as low as 15%, but on these specialty auctions, 25% is not unusual. 8 years ago, I was in L.A. and attended the Butterfield & Butterfield auction of auto/motorcycle memorabilia from the estates of Steve McQueen, "Big Daddy" Ed Roth and Von Dutch. Big $$$s and big premiums

(01-24-2015 08:50 PM)Gene C Wrote:  A 25% buyers premium (per Dave@BoothieBarn twitter page) seems high to me, especially since some of the photos mentioned are spurious.

In comparison, most real estate auctions around here (western KY) get a 10% buyers premium (the auction price plus 10%)
The last antique/estate auction I went to (several years ago) didn't charge a buyers premium. The auctioneer collected a commission from the seller on the total sales amount. I guess these fancy auction houses do it differently,
http://www.skinnerinc.com/news/blog/auction-fees-consigning-to-auction-part-iv/
A buyer's premium in an auction like this will usually run anywhere from 20% to 25%. I've seen some as low as 15%, but on these specialty auctions, 25% is not unusual. 8 years ago, I was in L.A. and attended the Butterfield & Butterfield auction of auto/motorcycle memorabilia from the estates of Steve McQueen, "Big Daddy" Ed Roth and Von Dutch. Big $$$s and big premiums


RE: The Donald P. Dow Collection of Lincolniana Auction (1/24/2015) - Donna McCreary - 01-26-2015 12:32 PM

(01-24-2015 05:46 PM)Gene C Wrote:  To rich for my blood. I'm sticking with old books, antique stores and flea market finds

My latest cheap find, a copy of "Tad and His Father" by F Lauriston Bullard, copyright 1915, 100 pages, for $2


My mother-in-law found a copy of "Tad's Lincoln's Father" by Julia Taft Bayne at an antique mall. She bought it for a mere $8. When she gave it to me, I opened it to the title page and found Julia's autograph -- by far, my best book find to date!


RE: The Donald P. Dow Collection of Lincolniana Auction (1/24/2015) - Gene C - 01-26-2015 01:55 PM

What a neat find, and that's a good book too.


RE: The Donald P. Dow Collection of Lincolniana Auction (1/24/2015) - LincolnToddFan - 01-29-2015 08:30 PM

(01-26-2015 12:32 PM)Donna McCreary Wrote:  
(01-24-2015 05:46 PM)Gene C Wrote:  To rich for my blood. I'm sticking with old books, antique stores and flea market finds

My latest cheap find, a copy of "Tad and His Father" by F Lauriston Bullard, copyright 1915, 100 pages, for $2


My mother-in-law found a copy of "Tad's Lincoln's Father" by Julia Taft Bayne at an antique mall. She bought it for a mere $8. When she gave it to me, I opened it to the title page and found Julia's autograph -- by far, my best book find to date!

Now that IS amazing...what a find!


RE: The Donald P. Dow Collection of Lincolniana Auction (1/24/2015) - Anita - 01-29-2015 10:10 PM

Gene, I found the same edition book for for $15. Where do you shop?

Donna, how exciting to find a treasure like that in this day and age. Everything is so picked over in the LA area. But then you never know. A good Lincoln book is a find in itself but but I wouldn't mind finding one with a treasure between the boards... like finding Mrs. Lincoln's recipe for almond courting cake tucked inside, in her handwriting of course!


RE: The Donald P. Dow Collection of Lincolniana Auction (1/24/2015) - RJNorton - 01-30-2015 06:31 AM

(01-26-2015 12:32 PM)Donna McCreary Wrote:  
(01-24-2015 05:46 PM)Gene C Wrote:  To rich for my blood. I'm sticking with old books, antique stores and flea market finds

My latest cheap find, a copy of "Tad and His Father" by F Lauriston Bullard, copyright 1915, 100 pages, for $2


My mother-in-law found a copy of "Tad's Lincoln's Father" by Julia Taft Bayne at an antique mall. She bought it for a mere $8. When she gave it to me, I opened it to the title page and found Julia's autograph -- by far, my best book find to date!


From personal experience I know this can happen. Years ago I bought a copy of In the Shadow of Lincoln's Death by Otto Eisenschiml. The purchase was made at an antiquarian book fair in St. Petersburg, FL. Inside was written, "To my friend, Mrs. Charles W. McClure, with many good wishes." Then it was signed by Otto himself.


RE: The Donald P. Dow Collection of Lincolniana Auction (1/24/2015) - Gene C - 02-19-2015 11:33 AM

This update on the Dow Collection auction.
You will find it not quite half way down the page

http://railsplitter.com/?page_id=4160


RE: The Donald P. Dow Collection of Lincolniana Auction (1/24/2015) - L Verge - 02-19-2015 12:29 PM

Thanks for sending us to the Railsplitter link, Gene. Several people had asked me if the Surratt House or Society would be bidding on any of the Dow items. As you can see from the prices realized, it was a tad bit out of our price range.

The political memorabilia shown in this reminded me of an exhibit we had years ago at the museum during one of the presidential campaigns (W's, I believe). One member created the whole exhibit which filled a 12 x 12 room full of locked showcases - and all the material was from the 1830-1870 period. It was splendid and very informative.


RE: The Donald P. Dow Collection of Lincolniana Auction (1/24/2015) - Susan Higginbotham - 02-19-2015 01:24 PM

I was looking at the "Suspect Lincoln" links on the Railsplitter page. All I can say from looking at their examples is that it's a good thing I can't afford any of these things, because I certainly couldn't pick out the fake items from the real ones.