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RE: Assassination Trivia - J. Beckert - 11-04-2012 07:55 PM

Don't forget the whiskey, Laurie. Another President had cancerous tumors removed from his mouth due to alcohol and tobacco use. Was it Grover Cleveland?


RE: Assassination Trivia - Gene C - 11-04-2012 09:39 PM

yes

http://www.healthmedialab.com/html/president/cleveland.html


RE: Assassination Trivia - RJNorton - 11-05-2012 04:57 AM

(11-04-2012 06:45 PM)J. Beckert Wrote:  Murphy?

Good try, Joe. I think I will give the answer as I really cannot think of any clues. Her name was Mary Ann Foy. I do not know what sources might have her name, but the Surratt Courier did a story on her in January of 1999. She wanted to go see Mary Surratt after the assassination, but other friends persuaded her not to go.


RE: Assassination Trivia - Laurie Verge - 11-05-2012 09:33 AM

Re: Grant's cancer, I should have remembered the whiskey. My own father was a chain smoker of cigarettes as well as an alcoholic. He died of throat cancer from the same two factors. Luckily, I had gone through messy diapers and spit-ups from my child before Dad got sick. Tending to a person with throat cancer is not a pleasant duty.


RE: Assassination Trivia - Laurie Verge - 11-05-2012 02:36 PM

Who was Joseph Maria Finotti?


RE: Assassination Trivia - Rsmyth - 11-05-2012 03:20 PM

Mary Surratt's former parish priest?


RE: Assassination Trivia - Laurie Verge - 11-05-2012 04:08 PM

Yes, and there's an interesting story here. In the 1840s, Mary Surratt and Christina Edelen rode horseback around the area of present-day Oxon Hill, Maryland, (near her first home with John Surratt and children) to raise funds to establish a church in that area. The first priest assigned by the Jesuits to that church (St. Ignatius - named after St. Ignatius Loyola, the founder of the Jesuit order) was Father Joseph Maria Finotti, who had previously come from Italy and been assigned to St. Mary's Church in Alexandria, Virginia, in 1850. Mrs. Surratt had been educated by the Sisters of Charity at a school attached to St. Mary's in the 1830s.

To make a long story short, it appears that Mrs. Surratt and Fr. Finotti developed a close relationship - so close that tongues began to wag. Soon the priest received notice that he was being transferred to Brookline, Massachusetts. He arrived there on Holy Saturday in 1852, and never returned to Maryland.

However, Mrs. Surratt maintained correspondence with Finotti during the 1850s; and some of these letters still exist. Professor Joseph George, now retired professor emeritus from Villanova University, published a booklet on them for the Maryland Historical Society about fifty years ago.

It is clear as you read the letters that Mary was an unhappy soul. In fact, she appears almost whiney in her writings - complaining about an alcoholic husband who will not take her to church, who is a bad influence on the children, and even ending one letter with "bless me father for this may be the last you hear from me. He has threatened to kill me if I do not become what he wishes me to become."

Given the fact that Mary had been given a good education, I have speculated that she wanted better in life than what she got. Her husband squandered a sizeable estate that he inherited from foster parents, so she watched finances go steadily downhill. She was stranded in the country, and she wanted better for her children. Then she became a widow in the middle of a devastating war with one son in the army in Texas and another running the roads between Richmond and Canada.

We could do a psycho-analysis and probably determine that she was pleased to have John Wilkes Booth enter her home. Perhaps she saw it as an indication of things looking up - especially since he had that flair and a promise of money to someone already involved in the Confederate cause. And, there was a marriageable daughter...

I have always wondered what happened to Fr. Finotti. Was he still in America, and what did he think of Mary's fall from grace? We have on display a small book of prayers which was given to her by the Father and which she supposedly kept in her cell until her execution. Author Elizabeth Trindal did a good amount of research on Mary and Fr. Finotti when she wrote American Tragedy.


RE: Assassination Trivia - Rsmyth - 11-05-2012 04:44 PM

After his stay in Mass. in 1877, he became pastor of a church in Central City, Colorado, and remained there till his death. He was then brought down from that mountain town to be buried in Mount Olivet Cemetery in Wheat Ridge (a suburb of Denver).


RE: Assassination Trivia - L Verge - 11-05-2012 06:06 PM

Thank you for that, Rich. Ironic that he should be buried in a Mount Olivet Cemetery also - one several thousand miles away from Mary, however. Any idea when he died?


RE: Assassination Trivia - Rsmyth - 11-05-2012 07:53 PM

January 10th 1879.


RE: Assassination Trivia - Hess1865 - 11-05-2012 09:50 PM

Laurie, it was the cigars that gave Grant cancer.
I heard he smoked up to 10 a day


RE: Assassination Trivia - RJNorton - 11-06-2012 06:10 AM

What was the 1865 street address of Gautier's Restaurant?


RE: Assassination Trivia - BettyO - 11-06-2012 07:06 AM

Can't find an 1865 City Directory, Roger -

But here is the 1864 Directory - the address listed is 252 Pennsylvania Avenue.

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RE: Assassination Trivia - RJNorton - 11-06-2012 07:16 AM

You got it, Betty. Kudos.


RE: Assassination Trivia - RJNorton - 11-06-2012 07:16 AM

Name two people who worked as waiters at Gautier's Restaurant.